What happens when you die?

[Dirtlaw]

Everyone I know who has passed on will , trust or not things just disappeared from the house , garage or shop.
Even before they passed . It's really sad.

The above is a pretty reliable truth.

[joefrank64k]

Everyone I know who has passed on leaving a will , trust or not things just disappeared from the house , garage or shop.
Even before they passed . It's really sad.
I feel like people are just waiting for elders to die so they can get the inheritance and that's all they care about.

[bugsy714]

[Dirtlaw]

On a serious note, I would like an arrangement whereby some of my weapons were gifted to an organization that provides Second Amendment training / opportunities to youth. The idea is still a work in progress. My first attempt was a crash and burn. However, I have learned that Hillsdale has some programs that might fit the bill.

So ... if I can put this together does anyone else want to take the same approach or contribute to what I create? In my first effort some youth we helped (musicians) were allowed to be directors. That was a mistake; they did not understand Mathew 6 giving. Likely I will now likely create a new foundation with directors populated by interested professionals.

[SharedShots]

Guns are the last thing I think about when it comes to this. Even if you have a lot of guns and ammo, chances are no one really gives a flying crap about them when you are gone and it's 100% sure you won't. Some people have relatives that are into guns but that's usually not the case.

There is a reason why so many hard to find and valuable things are sold by widows for a fraction of what they should bring, they didn't care about the stuff when their spouse was alive and care less now. Just the way it is.

While guns can be an investment, they are among the worst performing for most people and offer no recurring revenue stream for survivors. They are subject to every changing laws, can be a real pain to liquidate for those knowing anything about them and carry all kinds of liabilities just for owning them. Even some really good stuff that could bring substantial money needs more than a casual list to realize the value, some take it all disposal outfit isn't going to bring much.

Get rid of your guns when you see the reality of time hitting you, keep the essentials and treat them like you would other hobby based items, as if no one else wants them and they really could use liquid funds or paying assets/investments instead of muh guns.

When you're gone, those left will far more appreciate that you've made things simple and devoid of a lot of hassles. Who do you think is going to get the best prices for your collection, however big it might be, you or some outfit that shows ups, picks up and sends back a check?

We as gun owners tend to have emotional attachment to muh guns, it's just a fact that most others don't share it.













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[Dirtlaw]

So ... if I can put this together does anyone else want to take the same approach or contribute to what I create? In my first effort some youth we helped (musicians) were allowed to be directors. That was a mistake; they did not understand Mathew 6 giving. Likely I will now likely create a new foundation with directors populated by interested professionals.

I've met with a representative from Hillsdale. They actually have a firing range on campus. I am working with Concordia University, their current President is from Montana and has a nice collection of guns. Friends, this is doable!

[beerman]

Sharedshots was pretty spot on . I’m 68 and just don’t shoot much anymore. In the past 5 years, I went from 50 down to 24 pieces. My (only child) son put in dibs for 4 of them. Doesn’t really care about my ( prized to me ) WW2 collection. I keep a gun log, and made sure the wife knows, showing all of them and all the info on them (inc. SN, purchase price and est current value) also in the folder is Ryans card from LS&B. Gotta plan ahead. Problem she’s going to have is the reloaded ammo. I’ve been reloading my own ammo for 30+ years. She’ll have no idea how to liquidate those 2k + rounds.

[fast54vw]

This is the first thing I thought of when I read the title

https://youtu.be/aP3rqX877c8

[xrMike]

Sell the hardware you aren't using... Today. Don't wait around. Sell. No one is going to get more money for your guns than you can.

No one wants to deal with your guns when you are gone. No one. They will sell you stuff for ten cents on the dollar.

Take your money and enjoy life. Don't leave a mess for your family & friends to argue over.

Probably the most true for most of us.

Not my problem when I'm dead.

If you have no kids or wife, or nobody else that cares about you and has to take care of your estate or "loose ends" when you go, this is true.

But for most of us, not true.

When you die your guns go with you.. as ghost guns.

Duh.

Why do I have to do the heavy lifting here?

[RANGER295]

I have been thinking more and more about this. I am not that old (almost 40) but life is uncertain. We really need to update our will because a lot has changed since our original draft. We really need to get a trust started as well. I have thought about getting a trust going for al of my firearms. I want them to go to my kids but they are all young (11 and under) so they would have to be held for quite a while. I do not really trust my wife to keep the collection together. She is not anti gun and always wants me to have one on me but she does not like them either and has an attitude along the lines of, "you can only shoot one at a time so why do you need over 100?"

If I did not have kids that I wanted to pass them on to and was financially secure, I would either give them or instruct that they be sold at a steep discount to a deserving younger person that would truly appreciate them as I do. I got several firearms this way years ago from an elderly mentor of mine who left his firearms to five of us who were all at the time in our 20's. The only stipulation was we had to clear out the garage so his family did not have to deal with it. He was a hoarder and we took trailer loads of junk to the dump and got some cool stuff as well.

My biggest concern is the legal nightmare. All of my RAW's are dual registered with my wife. I think the 10+ mags are a bit of a grey area but I think the argument could be made that in a community property state they are just as much hers as mine. There are a few other pieces that need to be handled in specific ways. I have been thinking about calling up someone I know and trust from here and asking him if he would be willing to come and take care of certain things if something were to happen to me.

I have a binder with an inventory in it. There is a code system in there that designates the registration status and other information of each item. I need to figure a way to leave my combos for someone as well. As of right now, no one else knows the combo for my four safes. I also have ammo and a couple firearms very well hidden in spots other than the safes that I need to figure out how to make the location of known if I kick the bucket. As of right now, I have a couple stashes that would probably never be found. At least one stash is somewhere that dogs could not find them, a metal detector would not find it, and it would take a certain skill set to access even though the location is in plain sight.

[Dirtlaw]

I really wish I could get people behind me with the concept of donating what we have to an organization that teaches the youth the importance of our Second Amendment rights. Maybe that is the Appleseed Project. Maybe its Hillsdale (they have a nice range if you didn't know). I don't know if he is a member, but soon I will be approaching Concordia's President in that regard (We've been on the range together so I know he supports this). I wish I had more support, however.

[Oceanbob]

We all get the DIRTNAP.
My daughter/sons get the weapons and gear.
Bob

[Dirtlaw]

I really wish I could get people behind me with the concept of donating what we have to an organization that teaches the youth the importance of our Second Amendment rights. Maybe that is the Appleseed Project. Maybe its Hillsdale (they have a nice range if you didn't know). I don't know if he is a member, but soon I will be approaching Concordia's President in that regard (We've been on the range together so I know he supports this). I wish I had more support, however.

My frustration is that efforts to educate the youth regarding the Second Amendment's importance seem to go nowhere. Maybe I am a dinosaur.

[deadhawg]

At 75, I have been thinning down my collection for several years. At one time I had over 40, quite a few less now. Never lost money on anything I sold, but there are a couple I sold early on that have since gone way up in value. Still putting a few up for sale now & then but I will always keep a few in case TSHTF and a couple with family history. A will & trust is set up to deal with whatever guns are left.

[Dirtlaw]

Let me rephrase because I have obviously missed the mark.


I believe the next generation is our most valuable resource. Lose that to the enemy and the future is dismal. I agree that young people tend to be A-####s. But we need to suck it up because they are our future. Am I alone in this desire?