When will OC Sheriff's Department issue a statement?

[My600]

Can I get my CCW in Santa Clara county now? It was almost impossible to get one in this county.

[DolphinFan]

This is an interesting perspective. If the only permit available is one that violates Constitutional law, and if permits may be allowable under the Constitution but certainly not required, then I have to concur with your analysis. So, it seems that at present, CA has no valid law prohibiting either OC or CC, and that if they want to enact such legislation they may, but until then let freedom reign!
On the other hand, good luck explaining that tiday to the average LEO on the beat.

EXACTLY. and I will be carrying a copy of the Decision along with a copy of the California Constitution Article 1 Section 1, that also guaranteed the inalienable right to self defense, protecting property and Obtaining Safety.

I/You don't didn't need/require permission/permit to carry in the home, why would we need one to carry outside now that the highest court in the land says specifically in the first paragraph,


Until the State contrives a Constitutional permitting process there is NO LAW that meets Constitutional muster demanding I get a permit.

Finally, Can you name one other right you need to get permission/permit for? I can write and speak and exercise my rights under the 1A without permission.

[LoadedM333]

The SCOTUS rulings are the final say for the Nation.

[igs]

Wait times about to go from 6 months to 6 years.

[Dirtlaw]

There is logic to the saying that you should act while the iron is hot. Talk with wife is pending.

[MolonLabe2008]

That's not how things work. Based on Thursday's SCOTUS ruling, the CA "Good Cause" is null and void.

[9Cal_OC]

Are we still talking about OC?

[LoadedM333]

That's not how things work. Based on Thursday's SCOTUS ruling, the CA "Good Cause" is null and void.

For the state of NY, yes. But for CA, last I checked, SF, LA still required GC.
Please enlighten me of how things work in CA if you please.


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[MolonLabe2008]

For the state of NY, yes. But for CA, last I checked, SF, LA still required GC.
Please enlighten me of how things work in CA if you please.


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SCOTUS rulings apply to ALL states.

[MolonLabe2008]

Are we still talking about OC?

Yes. The OCSD still hasn't put out a statement saying that they are going to abide by the SCOTUS ruling and issue permits based on self-defense.

[GlockN'Roll]

Yes.
The OCSD still hasn't put out a statement saying that they are going to abide by the SCOTUS ruling and issue permits based on self-defense.

Like us, they are still trying to figure out how it impacts their rules and procedures, and how and when they will implement any/all changes that address this ruling...

[ProRoad]

From the California Attorney General's Office today:


No OAG-2022-02
Date June 24, 2022


On June 23, 2022 the USSCT issued it's decision NYSRP vs Bruen. .......

Accordingly, it is the Attorney General's view that the Court's decision renders California's "good cause" standard to secure a permit to carry a concealed weapon in most public places unconstitutional. Permitting agencies may no longer require a demonstration of "good cause" in order to obtain a concealed carry permit. However, local officials can and should continue to apply and enforce all other aspects of California law with respect to issuing public-carry licenses. In particular, the requirement that a public-carry license applicant provide proof of "good moral character" remains constitutional Law enforcement agencies that issues licenses to carry firearms in public should consult with their own counsel, carefully review the decision in Bruen, take the following guidance into account, and continue protecting public safety while complying with state law and the federal Constitution.

[ar15barrels]

That's the "wink wink" to the agencies that they can continue to deny all they want as long as they now use "insufficient moral character" as the denial reason instead of "insufficient good cause" that they have previously been using.

From the California Attorney General's Office today:


No OAG-2022-02
Date June 24, 2022


On June 23, 2022 the USSCT issued it's decision NYSRP vs Bruen. .......

Accordingly, it is the Attorney General's view that the Court's decision renders California's "good cause" standard to secure a permit to carry a concealed weapon in most public places unconstitutional. Permitting agencies may no longer require a demonstration of "good cause" in order to obtain a concealed carry permit. However, local officials can and should continue to apply and enforce all other aspects of California law with respect to issuing public-carry licenses. In particular, the requirement that a public-carry license applicant provide proof of "good moral character" remains constitutional Law enforcement agencies that issues licenses to carry firearms in public should consult with their own counsel, carefully review the decision in Bruen, take the following guidance into account, and continue protecting public safety while complying with state law and the federal Constitution.

[ProRoad]

It may be a wink wink to "liberal" Sheriffs, but if you have a "will issue" sheriff, it seems like a free pass.

[MolonLabe2008]

From the California Attorney General's Office today:


No OAG-2022-02
Date June 24, 2022


On June 23, 2022 the USSCT issued it's decision NYSRP vs Bruen. .......

Accordingly, it is the Attorney General's view that the Court's decision renders California's "good cause" standard to secure a permit to carry a concealed weapon in most public places unconstitutional. Permitting agencies may no longer require a demonstration of "good cause" in order to obtain a concealed carry permit. However, local officials can and should continue to apply and enforce all other aspects of California law with respect to issuing public-carry licenses. In particular, the requirement that a public-carry license applicant provide proof of "good moral character" remains constitutional Law enforcement agencies that issues licenses to carry firearms in public should consult with their own counsel, carefully review the decision in Bruen, take the following guidance into account, and continue protecting public safety while complying with state law and the federal Constitution.

The applicant must "provide proof of good moral character?" WTF? So, we are ALL guilty until proven innocent?

That's not how our system works.

The agency must prove that we are not of "good moral character."