Transporting/Using Freedom Week Mags

[RickD427]

Once you go Featureless you never go back.

And thanks Rick, I did not know it is not illegal to run a standard cap (hi cap) mag in a featureless rifle. So thanks for that!

Please go back and and re-read the thread. My comments were directed to featureless rifles that were mag-locked, or bullet-buttoned and were made from a very cautious reading of the law, and in light of DOJ practice. Osmily made a series of comments from a neutral perspective. (also note my puzzlement in the thread as to why anyone would do that with a featureless rifle).

[L4D]

This thread did not age well AT ALL.

[Librarian]

This thread did not age well AT ALL.

That's what happens.

I've had to stick dates in a lot of my replies - 'as of June 2021 ...' etc.

[edgerly779]

Moot point looks like 9th circuit ruled no large cap mags. Now maybe a scotus issue.

[dmcag69]

Keep the 10 rounder in features firearms

Also put 10 rounder in featureless
Only for transport

Freedom mags should be in a locked ammo can, not in carrying case with rifle. Low profile case, don't want mag pockets outside it.
When you Target shoot, use your freedom mag in featureless gun only

Carry only one freedom mag per gun, include 10 rounder, you don't want all your freedom mags confiscated at once, I carry one only ,not loaded, mixed with ten rounders.

Leave the ammo bearing vest and tactical vest at home with mag pouches, low profile, don't carry all your mags,.

When you Target shoot, at breaks, put away your freedom drums and mags locked in ammo can especially if a BLM or sheriff pulls up unexpectedly.dont leave them out for show, I only have a few 10 rounder that I don't use out on the table for show , my 30 rounder stays hidden when not in use. Either in can, vehicle trunk, toolbox, or in pocket.

[L4D]

Keep the 10 rounder in features firearms

Also put 10 rounder in featureless
Only for transport

Freedom mags should be in a locked ammo can, not in carrying case with rifle. Low profile case, don't want mag pockets outside it.
When you Target shoot, use your freedom mag in featureless gun only

Carry only one freedom mag per gun, include 10 rounder, you don't want all your freedom mags confiscated at once, I carry one only ,not loaded, mixed with ten rounders.

Leave the ammo bearing vest and tactical vest at home with mag pouches, low profile, don't carry all your mags,.

When you Target shoot, at breaks, put away your freedom drums and mags locked in ammo can especially if a BLM or sheriff pulls up unexpectedly.dont leave them out for show, I only have a few 10 rounder that I don't use out on the table for show , my 30 rounder stays hidden when not in use. Either in can, vehicle trunk, toolbox, or in pocket.

You are hoping that confiscation is the only penalty...
Probably a large fine, time in PMIAP, or hung by the nuts with two different ropes in the opposite direction.

The first person caught is going to be a doozy.

[dmcag69]

L4D
I typed that before I heard about the 9 circuit decision.

He should leave them home but in a lock box.
People are adults, it's their decision to follow the current laws if they want to

but we don't know about freedom mags yets, are they grandfathered , will they need to be registered, or what, its in limbo until supreme court or federal judge takes a chance and rules for us again without a stay

Ops question was before 9 th circuit decision

[Kokopelli]

So I have freedom week mags but I lost the receipt with the date on it . How do I prove they are bonafide freedom week mags ?

It has been stated on Calguns many times: You do not need to prove your innocence. THEY need to prove your guilt.

A slight tangent, here, but magazines made of fiber-reinforced-plastic will usually have a date code of manufacture moulded into them. My P-mags do.

For those who may be thinking that sandpaper works well on plastic. Please consider this:

--- California ---

537e. (a) Any person who knowingly buys, sells, receives, disposes
of, conceals, or has in his or her possession any personal property
from which the manufacturer's serial number, identification number,
electronic serial number, or any other distinguishing number or
identification mark has been removed, defaced, covered, altered, or
destroyed, is guilty of a public offense

[five.five-six]

Moot point looks like 9th circuit ruled no large cap mags. Now maybe a scotus issue.

[Jimi Jah]

To each their own based on their risk tolerance. I have no hesitation to use all magazines that I own outside the home irrespective of capacity.

Are you going to change your behavior now that it's a felony? I won't. I figured this crap would happen here, after all, it's California. 10 rounders only outside the house as always.

Best to fly under the radar here. Or play wack-a-mole?

[homelessdude]

I guess we finally get to see if the SC can live up to the expectations we have for it.

[ohsmily]

Are you going to change your behavior now that it's a felony? I won't. I figured this crap would happen here, after all, it's California. 10 rounders only outside the house as always.

Best to fly under the radar here. Or play wack-a-mole?

Are you going to change your tune now that you're wrong AGAIN. Read PC 32310(c). Seriously, do you just sit around figuring out what you're going to make up next? Stop spreading BS FUD...geezus.

[ar15barrels]

Are you going to change your behavior now that it's a felony?

A felony is a crime with a possible jail term exceeding 1 year.

32310.
(c) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing July 1, 2017, any person in this state who possesses any large-capacity magazine, regardless of the date the magazine was acquired, is guilty of an infraction punishable by a fine not to exceed one hundred dollars ($100) per large-capacity magazine, or is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed one hundred dollars ($100) per large-capacity magazine, by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

If you are going to make up FUD, at least research it a little before you spew it.

[Deelayed]

It has been stated on Calguns many times: You do not need to prove your innocence. THEY need to prove your guilt.



For those who may be thinking that sandpaper works well on plastic. Please consider this:

Public offense . I've heard of misdemeanor and felony . But public offense is new to me .

[RickD427]

Public offense . I've heard of misdemeanor and felony . But public offense is new to me .

It's not news. "Crime" and "Public Offense" are synonymous.

It's been that way since 1872.

Please refer to Penal Code sections 15 and 16 for the definition of the terms.