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  • crufflers
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 12723

    Originally posted by Robert1234
    Real shooters recognize it as a sign you're not just a gamer.
    Wait... run backwards or look both ways before crossing? Both??? I'll just launch my drone and activate 3rd person mode.

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    • Snoopy47
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 3872

      Originally posted by rodralig
      stockfactory ammo.

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      Agreed. No one else should have a 3lb trigger with reduced recoil springs shooting reduced personal loads.

      Just me.
      Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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      • crufflers
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2011
        • 12723

        Originally posted by Snoopy47
        Agreed. No one else should have a 3lb trigger with reduced recoil springs shooting reduced personal loads.

        Just me.
        Lucky.

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        • rodralig
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2016
          • 4262

          Originally posted by crufflers
          As far as the Timney... it is a $150 trigger and I want to try one. I do not need it, no. By all accounts it is a real step ahead in Glock triggers.


          Fair... I did get Timneys as well... Just to try it out, so, when I talk about it, people won't be pouting "have you ever tried one?"


          Originally posted by Snoopy47
          Agreed. No one else should have a 3lb trigger with reduced recoil springs shooting reduced personal loads.

          Just me.
          Originally posted by crufflers
          Lucky.



          Originally posted by Robert1234
          A really nice, or even moderately nice trigger won't make you a Grand Master, but it will make shooting more fun. It does for me anyway.
          This I would agree!

          It makes shooting more engaging... More enjoyable! That feeling of a "crisp" trigger break.

          But to say that it will significantly improve one's performance?


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          Last edited by rodralig; 10-11-2021, 6:11 PM.

          WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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          • crufflers
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2011
            • 12723

            Originally posted by rodralig
            I did get Timneys as well... Just to try it out, so, when I talk about it, people won't be pouting "have you ever tried one?"
            So you have one or more and find that it significantly improves your performance? Sweeeeet.

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            • rodralig
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2016
              • 4262

              Originally posted by crufflers
              So you have one or more and find that it significantly improves your performance? Sweeeeet.
              Nope. It doesn’t… I actually removed it from my Glock 34 MOS Gen 5 and reverted to stock. …. Well, in all fairness, I practice a lot with the stock trigger and very much used to it…

              I am planning to sell the trigger in the Buy/Sell group in Facebook at a minimal loss (2nd-hand trigger).

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              WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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              • crufflers
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 12723

                Originally posted by rodralig
                Nope. It doesn’t… I actually removed it from my Glock 34 MOS Gen 5 and reverted to stock. …. Well, in all fairness, I practice a lot with the stock trigger and very much used to it…

                I am planning to sell the trigger in the Buy/Sell group in Facebook at a minimal loss (2nd-hand trigger).

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                I tried a brand new Gen3 G34 recently and the trigger is fine. I was actually shocked how good it was. If the owner got a especially good one it was by chance because he ordered it from Sportsman's. I could see just leaving that connector alone. I personally have maybe two Glocks where I am not particularly pleased with the trigger feel on them the way they are. One is that Gen4 17 MOS I want to drop the Timney into. I wish I recalled exactly what my G41 felt like stock, but I know it was not like that Gen3 34. The G41 with a TTI connector is just fine for me, but who knows what will end up with a Timney if I love the first one.

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                • JC2020
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2020
                  • 820

                  Originally posted by crufflers
                  I tried a brand new Gen3 G34 recently and the trigger is fine. I was actually shocked how good it was. If the owner got a especially good one it was by chance because he ordered it from Sportsman's. I could see just leaving that connector alone. I personally have maybe two Glocks where I am not particularly pleased with the trigger feel on them the way they are. One is that Gen4 17 MOS I want to drop the Timney into. I wish I recalled exactly what my G41 felt like stock, but I know it was not like that Gen3 34. The G41 with a TTI connector is just fine for me, but who knows what will end up with a Timney if I love the first one.
                  Interesting. All my Glocks are stock; I've found just shooting them makes the trigger get to where I want it to be.

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                  • waveslayer
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1728

                    Originally posted by Gun1
                    I'm curious as to how a 1911 stacks against a Glock, both in 45 ACP. I've tried them both but at my local shooting ranges I can't fast-fire. So, I'm wondering if anyone can chime in with their experience as far as a faster rate of fire and accuracy? The trigger on a 1911 feels better than the Glock trigger, but I couldn't see if it actually translates into faster, more accurate shooting or not really? Like I mentioned, I can't test this myself as I'm limited to 1 shot per second.
                    Fast trigger , meaning trigger reset?

                    Glocks are a completely different system, strike fire versus a 1911 hammer fired weapon.

                    1911 is ammo deficient. Glock can run a big mag.

                    Accuracy us all depends on how good of a shooter you are. You don't see too many guys running 1911 as a sniper rifle. It's all shooter ability

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                    • crufflers
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 12723

                      Originally posted by JC2020
                      Interesting. All my Glocks are stock; I've found just shooting them makes the trigger get to where I want it to be.
                      My first Glock was a G22 and it smoothed out a little bit, but no amount of shooting would make it like a ZEV V4 connector IMHO. Maybe polishing them is effective, but why would you shoot perhaps tens of thousands of rounds before you got your trigger where you want it? Dry firing is free and I always try to break in triggers that way before spending $15... but come on. Assuming you like a trigger smoother and lighter than stock, do you REALLY think shooting $400 to $4000 worth of ammo through your gun before you can enjoy what a $15 connector and 2 minutes of install effort could get you... is the way?

                      I polished up my P95DC like that (by shooting alone), but there are no $15 trigger parts that transform it as far as I knew.

                      You do you though. Post the cost of ammo it takes to get one where you like it. More than $15? A whole TTI Grand Master kit only costs $40 IIRC.

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                      • JC2020
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2020
                        • 820

                        Originally posted by crufflers
                        My first Glock was a G22 and it smoothed out a little bit, but no amount of shooting would make it like a ZEV V4 connector IMHO. Maybe polishing them is effective, but why would you shoot perhaps tens of thousands of rounds before you got your trigger where you want it? Dry firing is free and I always try to break in triggers that way before spending $15... but come on. Assuming you like a trigger smoother and lighter than stock, do you REALLY think shooting $400 to $4000 worth of ammo through your gun before you can enjoy what a $15 connector and 2 minutes of install effort could get you... is the way?

                        I polished up my P95DC like that (by shooting alone), but there are no $15 trigger parts that transform it as far as I knew.

                        You do you though. Post the cost of ammo it takes to get one where you like it. More than $15? A whole TTI Grand Master kit only costs $40 IIRC.

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                        • crufflers
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 12723

                          Yeah it is subjective. When I get a stock Glock trigger, it doesn't feel like my other triggers that I prefer. If each of those was a $150 or $200 investment, I would probably have more stock triggers. I don't know too much about steel hardening or heat treating of connectors, but I don't want to polish off a hard layer on a rough stock connector trying to make it like a $15 connector that is smooth as glass and also heat treated, electro-plated, etc...

                          TTI connectors are "SAE 1075 Spring Steel heat treated to 50 Rc, Electroless Nickel plate per MIL-C-26074E (military standard) and baked to remove embrittlement."

                          Sounds like a good deal for $15 which is typically what I paid for mine anywhere but directly from TTI

                          ZEV are "laser cut from proprietary stainless steel, tempered and mirror polished. The improved connector surface geometry provides for the lightest, most crisp trigger pull possible while still maintaining a positive trigger reset."

                          I found this to be true but every Glock model can be a little different. If that Timney is really a game-changer it'll be an investment I don't have any buyer's remorse about. I probably spend minimum $90 or $125 on AR triggers not to suffer through the feel of Milspec.

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