Tactics: Passive Non-Compliance

[GrayWolf09]

I would do what that guy in Mississippi did. Have your wife call the police back and tell them not to come because your husband just shot the guy. What do you say 30 minutes turns into 3 minutes!

[J-cat]

... in California you can't.

Yes you can.

[J-cat]

SVT-40 - This is not hypothetical, a freind of mine actually had this happen to him. His solution (since he doesn't usually have pepper spray) was ammonia soaked rags tossed into the car with the perp. You can't breathe, you lose interest in anything but breathing. Your use of Pepper Spray is a good place to start.

If you can't get it on his face on chest, due to his body position inside the car, I suggest soaking the crotch - or seat - of his pants. Usually within 60 seconds he'll have other concerns than stealing your stereo. You might even make a few $$ by renting him your garden hose afterwards.

The use of a Taser might be workable, although there is always concern that using it to thwart a property crime (instead of crime against a person) could be deemed an "assault" and thus a violation of 244.5 PC.

You can use force to stop a property crime so long it is reasonable.

[DRM6000]

what do the police do?

the police are paid to apprehend the suspect. that is their job. it isn't prudent for citizens to put themselves in harm's way unnecessarily.

[ojisan]

I don't think it happened, and I wouldn't shoot him anyway. Silly story.

FYI:
My little sister was friends with a big burly pro football player. They both lived at a condominium complex. The FBP went down to the car port about 2:00AM one night because he needed his gear bag to pack for a flight out the next day. The FBP gets to the carport and finds a guy who has broken into his car and had his head and hands up under the dash to hot-wire it.
The unarmed FBP says "get out of my car", the Thief pulls a gun out and says "get the f*** outta here or I will shoot you." The FBP goes back upstairs and calls 911. By the time the cops show up, the thief had finished the hot-wire job and the car was gone.

Be really careful approaching anyone commiting a crime.

[trinydex]

the police are paid to apprehend the suspect. that is their job. it isn't prudent for citizens to put themselves in harm's way unnecessarily.

the police are paid to, that's the only difference? is this really the argument? are the world's responsibilities really so compartmentalized? maybe someone needs to start payin' to breathe.

[J-cat]

A Thought:

Under the above circumstances, if you had a gun, you'd prolly shoot the guy, thereby incurring all kinds of problems. Is a car of whatever value worth it?

Really, would you wanna drive a car wherein you killed a guy? I wouldn't.

[J-cat]

the police are paid to, that's the only difference? is this really the argument? are the world's responsibilities really so compartmentalized? maybe someone needs to start payin' to breathe.

It's a liberal argument. Save the policing to the police.

But do you really wanna fight with a professional turd over a car? Right now I wish someone would steal mine.

[Fjold]

Have Wifezilla call 911 and report it again and then say "Oh my God! A gun!" and hang up.

The cops will be there shortly.

[trinydex]

It's a liberal argument. Save the policing to the police.

But do you really wanna fight with a professional turd over a car? Right now I wish someone would steal mine.

i'm not saying fight... in fact the other propositions are more like fighting and out of the box tactics than what i'm simply asking.

the police face compliant and non compliant perps all the time. they're paid to yes... do they not also employ legal and most safe standard operating procedures? if it's not good enough for them what HOPE do "we" have?

what are we doing here? lettin' 'em have it or doing something about it? are we splitting hairs or just exercising frustrations?

[RideIcon]

throw a knife in his lap, wait for him to grab it...

[J-cat]

i'm not saying fight... in fact the other propositions are more like fighting and out of the box tactics than what i'm simply asking.

the police face compliant and non compliant perps all the time. they're paid to yes... do they not also employ legal and most safe standard operating procedures? if it's not good enough for them what HOPE do "we" have?

what are we doing here? lettin' 'em have it or doing something about it? are we splitting hairs or just exercising frustrations?

Police face compliant turds all the time, yes, but the same turds become very non-compliant when you contact them without a uniform on. I'm not saying you shouldn't ever intervene, just that your average guy that's never been in a fight before is taking a big risk vs a cop with his training, equipment, and backup + the might of the state behind him.

If you have a gun, tazer, OC and a baton on, and you feel up to it, go ahead. It will be a very interesting tale.

[trinydex]

average guy doesn't have a gun, average guy doesn't discuss alternative tactics to deal with non compliance. why discuss if we're resolved to be average???

[kajvid]

You are gonna need a hole and a lot of lime...............


or American History X curb job and send him on his way.

[DisgruntledReaper]

Sneak up on him, incapacitate him in your favorite method,go inside ,wait 10 minutes,call the cops'I heard a scuffle and there is some guy knocked out in my torn apart car..looks like thieving and then an argument..'

Oh and for good measure-using gloves, set off an airbag in his face using wires from the dash....

There are many other ideas..of course a flare does sound....'entertaining!