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  • #31
    Mickey D
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3502

    Originally posted by sfvshooter
    We take old people's DL's away because they might harm themselves or others.

    If you can't properly operate a firearm e.g. pass a safe handling demo, maybe it's time to let it go.

    Also, when did firearm ownership become a "god given right"? I didn't grow up in a religious household so maybe I missed this. However, I did take a few semesters of theology in college and I don't recall anything in the bible telling us to pack heat.
    ***Honesty is the Foundation of One's Character***

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    ***Mature Up***

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    • #32
      GeeBee49
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2020
      • 1981

      Originally posted by five.five-six
      Many people Biden's age are suffering from mental issues but many more are not. Early Onset Alzheimer's can happen to people in their 50s while members on this thread have commented on relatives in their 80s and 90s who are still going strong. So age does not compare to a one on one individual basis.

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      • #33
        sonofeugene
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 4510

        Age is not an issue. Ability is. I could be 90 plus and it wouldn't make a difference as long as I can hold the gun and aim properly.

        Alzheimers and dementia are a different issue and really should be a part of this discussion.
        Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

        A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

        Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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        • #34
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10584

          My wife and eldest daughter asked me to promise that I would dispose of my firearms if they felt I was no longer mentally competent to own them. I trust them and I promised such. Those who are suffering from diminished mental abilities may not recognize it. of course I am going to ask for some proof first!

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          • #35
            NapalmCheese
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2011
            • 5954

            Originally posted by Dennis
            So it got me thinking, how old is too old? I tried to imagine myself at that age, in that situation. Even when my old hands can barely hold my gun up, I'd still want it close by. But what about dementia and Alzheimer's? At what point does someone say no more for you? What is that process like? Especially if there is no family close by.

            So really what you're asking is "at what point should the state strip you of your constitutional rights?".

            Seems that is pretty well taken care of after a judge finds you to be a danger to yourself or others.
            Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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            • #36
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19554

              My grandfather carried a gun around the house in a pocket... I was little but on one visit, my dad removed the firing pin from his 1903 pocket auto.

              My dad made the decision that it was time to remove the pin.


              As you get older, you get to deal with your parents, aunts and uncles all becoming incompetent. They forget to pay property taxes, they forget to pay auto insurance, they are susceptible to scammers.

              Set up a living trust for yourself, even if single.

              As your relatives about their will and living trust. Go over the important stuff...


              When one relative died, I remembered they had purchased a death package from Neptune society. Make one call and he was picked up, cremated and ashes scattered at sea. His kids and spouse did not remember this and were asking me about funeral options... I asked if his spouse did not want to use the Neptune option and if they wanted to pay again to have him buried somewhere or buy joint plots.

              They called Neptune.


              Its important to understand all the options ahead of time.
              Should the surviving spouse make the call- Buried whole or cremated and buried or scattered....

              Its an easy topic as most older folks want to have the conversation, but they don't want to start the topic.

              Where is the Will? Where is the Trust? Who is the attorney? are they good are they alive/ still practicing law? Where is the deed? What bank has the safety deposit boxes? Who has a key? Who needs to be added to the box signature card?
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #37
                GeeBee49
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2020
                • 1981

                I plan on shooting my guns until they bury me. They will bury me whole because I've already paid for it. When the time comes, one phone call to Rose Hills and they handle everything.

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                • #38
                  elSquid
                  In Memoriam
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 11844

                  Originally posted by sfvshooter
                  Also, when did firearm ownership become a "god given right"? I didn't grow up in a religious household so maybe I missed this. However, I did take a few semesters of theology in college and I don't recall anything in the bible telling us to pack heat.

                  When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

                  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...

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                  • #39
                    CWL
                    Senior Member
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1488

                    Originally posted by sfvshooter
                    Also, when did firearm ownership become a "god given right"? I didn't grow up in a religious household so maybe I missed this. However, I did take a few semesters of theology in college and I don't recall anything in the bible telling us to pack heat.
                    You must've been a bad student.

                    Luke 11:21
                    When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe;

                    Maybe you are a buddhist?

                    Vae Victis

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                    • #40
                      Wordupmybrotha
                      From anotha motha
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 6965

                      You'll know when you're too old.

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                      • #41
                        five.five-six
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2006
                        • 34870

                        Originally posted by GeeBee49
                        Many people Biden's age are suffering from mental issues but many more are not. Early Onset Alzheimer's can happen to people in their 50s while members on this thread have commented on relatives in their 80s and 90s who are still going strong. So age does not compare to a one on one individual basis.

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                        • #42
                          five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34870

                          Originally posted by sfvshooter
                          Also, when did firearm ownership become a "god given right"? I didn't grow up in a religious household so maybe I missed this. However, I did take a few semesters of theology in college and I don't recall anything in the bible telling us to pack heat.

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                          • #43
                            still919
                            Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 458

                            I'll go at it from the other end....don't give too much credit to the young(er). Qualified is qualified, AND unqualified is just that. There's a whole bunch of confusion over California firearm legislation across the board, all ages. And there's plenty of young(er) folks that possess firearms, but never really had any business doing so in the first place. Who's telling them "no"?

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                            • #44
                              PaperTarget
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 786

                              Its a simple formula.
                              If one's competency is worse than or equal to Biden, then one is disqualified as "too old"

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                              • #45
                                pohorsky
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 836

                                I tend to see it in terms of if they are coherent enough for follow the four laws, especially being aware of who is coming in and keeping their finger off the bang switch. If they are not mentally with it, you don't want them to accidentally shoot someone or think a loved one is an intruder.
                                Speaking of guns / self defense and the Bible, don't forget about the Lawman Reverend Brown.

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