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  • Dennis
    Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 264

    How old is too old?

    I was in Turners today replacing some ammo I shot over the weekend. There was an old gentleman in there trying to get ammo. Well into his 70's if not 80's. Anyways, they were telling him about the new system and asking if he'd bought a gun recently. He said no, and that it was for his brother who didn't drive anymore. His brother no longer had a license. They were explaining the system to him telling him he had to go to cfars online. I bet this old guy didn't even have a computer. He just left in frustration.


    I've been kicking myself since then for not approaching him and offering to help. In these strange times we're in, I imagine just having a box of ammo for some old relic they have sitting around would provide them with some peace of mind, some comfort. But what if this was for a Dr Kevorkian kind of situation.


    So it got me thinking, how old is too old? I tried to imagine myself at that age, in that situation. Even when my old hands can barely hold my gun up, I'd still want it close by. But what about dementia and Alzheimer's? At what point does someone say no more for you? What is that process like? Especially if there is no family close by.



    Have you planned for this part of your life?
    Would like to buy 357 Maximum ammo.
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    CWL
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 1488

    Tough question with no simple answer.

    I do think that firearms competency depends most on mental ability and not age or physical limitations.
    Vae Victis

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    • #3
      Sousuke
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 3846

      Originally posted by CWL
      Tough question with no simple answer.

      I do think that firearms competency depends most on mental ability and not age or physical limitations.
      I was going to make a light joke about blind people seeing your post, but then I started digging and realized there is a huge debate about the 2nd ammendment and people who are blind. I'm not sure where I stand on the issue especially when its been drilled into me that one of the key rules of safety is knowing your target and its background.
      Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

      The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
      The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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      • #4
        Endless
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 1881

        Originally posted by CWL
        Tough question with no simple answer.

        I do think that firearms competency depends most on mental ability and not age or physical limitations.
        I agree with you.

        My uncle is 71 and probably can outshoot a majority of folks on this gun forum under the age of 30. He is an Army veteran but boy can he still shoot.

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        • #5
          12lbRooster
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 215

          Originally posted by Sousuke
          I was going to make a light joke about blind people seeing your post, but then I started digging and realized there is a huge debate about the 2nd ammendment and people who are blind. I'm not sure where I stand on the issue especially when its been drilled into me that one of the key rules of safety is knowing your target and its background.
          Blind people and those with vision impairments use the internet too.

          There's a big push on the development side for accessibility and there have been a fair number of ADA lawsuits against larger sites not meeting the standards.

          But on the firearms front, that's a very difficult scenario. I'd be quite hesitant to tell someone even completely blind that they aren't to have the tools to defend themselves, it's an inalienable right and I don't believe a disability should strip that away.

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          • #6
            TrappedinCalifornia
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2018
            • 9223

            Age is largely a number, sometimes providing general guidance; but, rarely being definitive in terms of delimiting an individual's ability, mentally or physically.



            At what point? I'd say it has nothing to do with age and, instead, should be based on specific circumstance. But, it's a debate that's never been satisfactorily answered as people are individuals and don't always match "the charts" or the text book or stereotypes. Thus, each case is unique, meaning there is no, one-size-fits-all answer to the question.

            But, that hints at the real problem.

            What circumstances gives anyone the 'authority' to deny someone else a God-given right?

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            • #7
              Ex Pat
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2020
              • 87

              Originally posted by Dennis
              Have you planned for this part of your life?
              I turned 82 in October - at last count my Wife (55) and I have 30 something firearms (she bought a Browning 1911 .380 a month ago) and we shoot as often as we can (indoor range about 50 miles away) but have slowed down due to this ammo shortage (caused by this b.s. "fear" that has gripped the U.S.)

              we also "work" 20 acres of property and tend to 4 adopted rescue Horses and 4 Dogs, 3 of which are adopted - animal tending, mowing, fence building - 7 days a week

              I feel that I'm lucky in that "old age", for me, is just a state of mind - and lucky that I'm physically able to do the things that I need and want to do

              so "planned for this part of your life" ? planning hasn't really much to do with it - health and mentality will decide how you handle getting up in years

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              • #8
                Mickey D
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 3502

                ***Honesty is the Foundation of One's Character***

                *** In comparing the virtues of various calibers, using hollow point ammo: it is absolutely undeniable that, while a 9 mm or .40 S&W may or may not expand, a .45 will never shrink. ***

                ***Mature Up***

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                • #9
                  smle-man
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10580

                  My dad shot until his late 80s, after that he said his strength was weakened to the point that he couldn't hold a firearm up for very long. He distained bench resting a firearm.

                  I hope I'll be shooting as long as him but already at 66 I'm having trouble freehand shooting long guns for any length of time without excessive shaking setting in. so far handguns aren't a problem.

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                  • #10
                    OCEquestrian
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 6898

                    Originally posted by CWL
                    Tough question with no simple answer.

                    I do think that firearms competency depends most on mental ability and not age or physical limitations.
                    ^^^^ This!
                    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ----Sen. Barry Goldwater

                    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ----Benjamin Franklin

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                    • #11
                      The War Wagon
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10294


                      I wouldn't live in a state where I couldn't.
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                      • #12
                        Epaphroditus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 4888

                        Too old is one day after one dies.
                        CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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                        • #13
                          HKAllTheThings
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 1313

                          Watching your family members deteriorate in old age is one of the saddest things about life.

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                          • #14
                            tsmithson
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 1580

                            30 years ago I did a job for a couple in San Pedro. He was 106 and she was 105. He came out to the garage With his cane a couple times to check on me. When I was cleaning up he started to help. He picked up the extra heavy duty box the metal parts came in and ripped it into several pieces as I stood there trying to let him know I could clean up. Most men on this site would not have been able to rip that box the way he did, including me at my age now.

                            He was a professional fisherman.

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                            • #15
                              keith1911
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1297

                              With all of this craziness going on I helped an elderly neighbor get ammo for his pistol. He was very happy with my help.

                              My brother is legally blind from an accident and has a license to carry in CO where he lives.

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