Another 03-FFL & COE thread

[Fat Old Guy]

Well, I did it. Went and got my live scan done this afternoon. Filled out and mailed the 03FFL application to ATF, sent a copy to our dipstick sheriff, went on to CFARS and filled out the COE application.

I guess it's all a waiting game now.

Good Luck and I hope it all goes smoothly!

[Dimitri A.]

Good Luck and I hope it all goes smoothly!

Yes, for both of us!

[-hanko]

To do it right really means spending about a hundred hours studying the nuances of all the applicable federal and state laws. Basically, you can buy c&r long guns from anyone, you can sell c&r long guns to other FFLs, and you can get ammo shipped to your door. There are seveal exceptions and some additions, but that's my summary of it. If that sounds interesting to you go for it. Otherwise I'd say it's a waste of time.

A hundred hours? Four full days?

Is English your third or fourth language?

[559nFree]

Do you guys mind rattling off a few places that acknowledge the FFL03+COE and will ship ammo to front door? So far I know LAX Ammo and Target Sports USA.

Also, if buying ammo in person from a LGS are we exempt from the background and $1 fee?

Thank you in advance.

[fluffygunguy]

Batfe already processed my FFL03 and I'm waiting for it to come in. My coe.has been processing for 30.days. any idea how long that's going to take?

[sfe187]

Do you guys mind rattling off a few places that acknowledge the FFL03+COE and will ship ammo to front door? So far I know LAX Ammo and Target Sports USA.

Also, if buying ammo in person from a LGS are we exempt from the background and $1 fee?

Thank you in advance.

1. there is a thread listing all the out of state FFL will ship with 03, i'm too lazy to find it.

2. No you still have to pay $1. You can show your coe to the clerk but that might just make the clerk confuse even more lol.

[sheepdawg]

The FFL03-friendly ammunition dealers thread is at https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1406001

[Mute]

Batfe already processed my FFL03 and I'm waiting for it to come in. My coe.has been processing for 30.days. any idea how long that's going to take?

Don't know current processing times but when I did mine several years ago, it took approximately 2 months or so from when I submitted my application to when I received my license. Just be patient. If you're really concerned, you can contact them. ATF actually has their crap together as far as customer service and they can give you a time frame that's probably fairly accurate.

[SVT-40]

Just got my FFL03, still waiting (and waiting...) for my COE. To do it right really means spending about a hundred hours studying the nuances of all the applicable federal and state laws. Basically, you can buy c&r long guns from anyone, you can sell c&r long guns to other FFLs, and you can get ammo shipped to your door. There are seveal exceptions and some additions, but that's my summary of it. If that sounds interesting to you go for it. Otherwise I'd say it's a waste of time.
No UPS Store for firearms, but there's a UPS center near you in Compton. I'm not sure about their rules for ammo.

Federally is real easy.

1. You are not a dealer. You can't buy C&R firearms for others.

2. There are three things having a C&R FFL allows you to do.

1. "Acquire" C&R firearms into your collection. "Acquire" means anyway
you can get a C&R. A gift. buy it from a FFL of any type.

2. "Hold" a C&R in your collection. Just like a museum. Your collection is
your "museum".

3. "Dispose" of a C&R firearm from your collection. "Dispose" means any
way a firearm leaves your collection. Gift, sale. Even stolen.


When you "Acquire" a C&R firearm as a licensed collector you are required to list it in your bound book. Regardless of how you "acquired" the C&R it needs to be listed in your book.

Holding a C&R requires no action. It's listed in your book.

"Disposing" of a C&R firearm requires you to follow all state and federal laws. So if you sell, give away have something stolen. Whatever you list who you "disposed" the C&R to.

If it's a FFL you just put the name and address of the FFL. If you sell it to another collector who has a C&R you list their name and FFL number.

If you sell it to a individual and use a FFL for the disposition. You list the FFL as who you disposed of the C&R to.

You don't need to list any of the C&R firearms you already have in your collection in your bound book.

If you "dispose" of a C&R firearm you had before you were licensed you need to enter that gun in the acquisition side of your book. The only notation you need to list other than the firearms description is "from personal collection".

You then follow the above information regarding the disposition.

It's not that hard.

You can also use pencil while making entries in your book. There is no Federal requirement to use a pen.

Keep current and make the entries when you do acquire and dispose of C&R's. Don't wait and forget. I think you have three days to make the entries.

[vino68]

Originally Posted by IronsightsRifleman View Post
To do it right really means spending about a hundred hours studying the nuances of all the applicable federal and state laws. Basically, you can buy c&r long guns from anyone, you can sell c&r long guns to other FFLs, and you can get ammo shipped to your door. There are seveal exceptions and some additions, but that's my summary of it. If that sounds interesting to you go for it. Otherwise I'd say it's a waste of time.

A hundred hours? Four full days?

Is English your third or fourth language?

No kidding, are you using a speak in spell??
You are also exempt to 1in30, AB879 and can acquire ammo out of state, C&Rs out of state and bring them in yourself.
Is swear, maybe we should have an intelligence test for firearms.

[vino68]

"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government;... whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789. ME 7:253

Start by buying this book: https://www.calgunlawsbook.com/

[Dimitri A.]

Batfe already processed my FFL03 and I'm waiting for it to come in. My coe.has been processing for 30.days. any idea how long that's going to take?

I submitted mine on the 9th, DOJ got back to me today...to tell me it was incomplete. I forgot to attach a photo of my ID. Doh!

[vino68]

COE is taking much longer than pre-Covid days.

[Eiginh]

Let me know once you get yours approved if you are actually able to ship ammo to your home address in LA county. I read somewhere online that it is restricted for this county but I am not 100% certain.

[vino68]

Let me know once you get yours approved if you are actually able to ship ammo to your home address in LA county. I read somewhere online that it is restricted for this county but I am not 100% certain.

Not county, city may be an issue. I do not recall as I have not lived in the city of Los Angeles in decades.