Do we really need CCWs?

[pacrat]

Spoken like a properly indoctrinated Liberal Leftist who feels the need of Nanny State interventions in all aspects of their life.

There are thousands of laws on the books nationwide, that are in place to "weed out the crazies' And the "criminals".

So comrade, why do you feel the need to "weed in the good guys"? Pay fees, and prove your worthiness to government autocrats, to be allowed to exercise a God Given Right of defense?

[Vasir]

Spoken like a properly indoctrinated Liberal Leftist who feels the need of Nanny State interventions in all aspects of their life.

There are thousands of laws on the books nationwide, that are in place to "weed out the crazies' And the "criminals".

So comrade, why do you feel the need to "weed in the good guys"? Pay fees, and prove your worthiness to government autocrats, to be allowed to exercise a God Given Right of defense?

It’s not holding me back- so I guess that’s my privilege isn’t it? And god forbid the processes necessary for the ccw teach me more than I did before... Also, you’re damn wrong about my affiliations but hey, your opinion doesn’t matter does it?

Nostrovia!

[ja308]

We needn't debate whether CCWs permits are needed or valuable for protecting society. There are several examples of states that have Constitutional Carry laws and favorable conclusions can be reached looking into their data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry.
nts
1 U.S. jurisdictions that have constitutional carry
1.1 Alaska
1.2 Arizona
1.3 Arkansas
1.4 Idaho
1.5 Kansas
1.6 Kentucky
1.7 Maine
1.8 Mississippi
1.9 Missouri
1.10 New Hampshire
1.11 North Dakota (residents only; concealed carry only)
1.12 Oklahoma
1.13 South Dakota
1.14 Vermont
1.15 West Virginia
1.16 Wyoming (residents only)


Now admittedly we have seen examples on this very thread where a couple of people have posted comments that are so stupid, illogical and braindead wrong that would cause a reasonable person to question whether they should even have access to any device that could cause harm to society.
While its true Free States trust their citizens to CCW via Constitutional Carry, they have a share of persons meeting the above description. Fortunately these mindless illiterate drones are glued to the TV, watching clues on how to dress, act, speak and what causes to endorse.

[heidad01]

We needn't debate whether CCWs permits are needed or valuable for protecting society. There are several examples of states that have Constitutional Carry laws and favorable conclusions can be reached looking into their data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry.
nts
1 U.S. jurisdictions that have constitutional carry
1.1 Alaska
1.2 Arizona
1.3 Arkansas
1.4 Idaho
1.5 Kansas
1.6 Kentucky
1.7 Maine
1.8 Mississippi
1.9 Missouri
1.10 New Hampshire
1.11 North Dakota (residents only; concealed carry only)
1.12 Oklahoma
1.13 South Dakota
1.14 Vermont
1.15 West Virginia
1.16 Wyoming (residents only)


Now admittedly we have seen examples on this very thread where a couple of people have posted comments that are so stupid, illogical and braindead wrong that would cause a reasonable person to question whether they should even have access to any device that could cause harm to society.
While its true Free States trust their citizens to CCW via Constitutional Carry, they have a share of persons meeting the above description. Fortunately these mindless illiterate drones are glued to the TV, watching clues on how to dress, act, speak and what causes to endorse.

Umm, OK.
All that ^^ and four bits won't get us a cup of coffee.

And, what does that have to do with us in California??

To prove what you started advocating from the begining of this thread, You were supposed to come up with cases where a Californian (or any resident of states that requires a CCW) was caught carrying without a CCW permit, and the LEO was all honky dory with that and just let them walk away with their gun!

[ja308]

Umm, OK.
All that ^^ and four bits won't get us a cup of coffee.

And, what does that have to do with us in California??

To prove what you started advocating from the begining of this thread, You were supposed to come up with cases where a Californian (or any resident of states that requires a CCW) was caught carrying without a CCW permit, and the LEO was all honky dory with that and just let them walk away with their gun!

Reading comprehension problem much.

This is the 2nd time you have incorrectly stated the situations of what Ive questioned. So please stop embarrassing yourself with the eye rolls and other dumb emjoies that are not applicable to my posts!

I never said LEOs will look the other way. Ive asked the question and have added my logic why I think its a good possibility most would not bother with an arrest if they spotted a printed CW.

[homelessdude]

Anyone who thinks the cops are all good guys that only took the job to make the world a better place please go out and test 308's theory. Maybe he will kick in some bail money. Let us know how that works out for you.

[Gundiver]

Im wondering if big city cops will make arrests for otherwise law abiding people carrying concealed firearms?

This ad paid for by Americans contributing to Trump and the RNC make me think cops will view people not involved with riots, burning and looting as a supplement to their efforts at obtaining order and

[ja308]

Anyone who thinks the cops are all good guys that only took the job to make the world a better place please go out and test 308's theory. Maybe he will kick in some bail money. Let us know how that works out for you.

My theory is good cops will not go out of their way to make an arrest for a printed gun. FWIW if a NWO cop does spot a CW. The only correct tactic is to raise your hands and state " WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO '?

Bad cops sure ! Look at the murder of Eric Scott in Las Vegas where he had a CCW. Scott while legally armed triggered a snowflake COSTCO employee who called 911 and police met Scott outside. When Scott said " I am disarming" dumb cops shot him several times !
Bad cop, killer Phillip brailsford in Mesa Az, who made commands that were contradictory and impossible for Daniel Shaver to follow. Brailsford, opened fire and was charged and acquitted.



Fortunately when I realized how democrat states embrace international law which outlaws civilian ownership of guns. I took the initiative and began to establish residence in a free state and yes I have a CCW and yes I do avoid high risk area's.

[starlight]

My theory is good cops will not go out of their way to make an arrest for a printed gun. FWIW if a NWO cop does spot a CW. The only correct tactic is to raise your hands and state " WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO '?

Bad cops sure ! Look at the murder of Eric Scott in Las Vegas where he had a CCW. Scott while legally armed triggered a snowflake COSTCO employee who called 911 and police met Scott outside. When Scott said " I am disarming" dumb cops shot him several times !
Bad cop, killer Phillip brailsford in Mesa Az, who made commands that were contradictory and impossible for Daniel Shaver to follow. Brailsford, opened fire and was charged and acquitted.



Fortunately when I realized how democrat states embrace international law which outlaws civilian ownership of guns. I took the initiative and began to establish residence in a free state and yes I have a CCW and yes I do avoid high risk area's.

- both of these men were trashed or under the influence in these cases
- that's the problem
- my county don't allow drinking and CCW
- so if im carrying, im 100% sober

- nobody sees printing unless it's beyond obvious...











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[Nvberinger]

If you commenting on the CCW thing you're not getting it. This is another Ja308 troll thread. It's sole intent was to undermine and discredit BLM and the twenty something percent of our population merely wanting to be treated equally. People wanting nothing more than their chance at 'the American Dream', 'equality of opportunity' the 'pursuit of happiness' and to not live in fear of letting their kids outside to play in 21st century America.

"All truths go though three stages; first they are denied, then they are violently resisted, only lastly are they accepted as being self evident."

Our OP is none too happy that most of America is finally waking up and getting to the third part of that. So he'll do everything he can to undermine, dismiss, diminish, discredit, deflect, or 'whatabout' in order to stay in that first part.

Wanna' know the exact day when Ronald Reagan as Governor of California decided he was in favor of gun control? The exact same day he saw Huey Newton and the Black Panthers open carrying on the steps of Oakland City Hall (or was it?) the Capital in Sacramento.

Yes no Guns in Federal and State Government Buildings. Panters were a Terrorist group!

[Nvberinger]

My theory is good cops will not go out of their way to make an arrest for a printed gun. FWIW if a NWO cop does spot a CW. The only correct tactic is to raise your hands and state " WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO '?

Bad cops sure ! Look at the murder of Eric Scott in Las Vegas where he had a CCW. Scott while legally armed triggered a snowflake COSTCO employee who called 911 and police met Scott outside. When Scott said " I am disarming" dumb cops shot him several times !
Bad cop, killer Phillip brailsford in Mesa Az, who made commands that were contradictory and impossible for Daniel Shaver to follow. Brailsford, opened fire and was charged and acquitted.



Fortunately when I realized how democrat states embrace international law which outlaws civilian ownership of guns. I took the initiative and began to establish residence in a free state and yes I have a CCW and yes I do avoid high risk area's.

Eric Scott was violent at Costco and was found to have high levels of Xanax. No no!

[ja308]

If West Point Grad, Army Officer Eric Scott deserved to die, Police would have released the 911 tape made by COSCO snowflake clerk and COSTCOS security cams would have been working when Scott said I am disarming and was shot to death! Acting in a way that triggers a COSTCO employee is not a violent act.

As for Danial Shaver being shot dead by Mesa cop Phillp Brailsford, he was charged with murder and had a very favorable judge who would not allow evidence of the rifle inscription " YOUR F*UCKED . Brailsfords dad was cop and turned lawyer and that was how this killer got off .

Calgunners are encouraged to watch this video cam footage of Daniel Shaver being shot to death.

https://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/mesa-police-involved-shooting-bodycam-philip-brailsford-not-guilty-daniel-shaver/

Keep in mind according to some on this forum, having a few drinks is a justification for shooting someone dead !

Its cops like these 2 who would kill you at the drop of a hat ! No wonder some wrongly think all cops are bad.
Oh lets not forget crack shot Mohammed Noor now doing 12 years for shooting an unarmed women. What makes the Noor case worse was his partner lying under oath that she slapped the rear fender!
Prints taken form the patrol car didn't find a handprint !

[starlight]

If West Point Grad, Army Officer Eric Scott deserved to die, Police would have released the 911 tape made by COSCO snowflake clerk and COSTCOS security cams would have been working when Scott said I am disarming and was shot to death! Acting in a way that triggers a COSTCO employee is not a violent act.

As for Danial Shaver being shot dead by Mesa cop Phillp Brailsford, he was charged with murder and had a very favorable judge who would not allow evidence of the rifle inscription " YOUR F*UCKED . Brailsfords dad was cop and turned lawyer and that was how this killer got off .

Calgunners are encouraged to watch this video cam footage of Daniel Shaver being shot to death.

https://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/mesa-police-involved-shooting-bodycam-philip-brailsford-not-guilty-daniel-shaver/

Keep in mind according to some on this forum, having a few drinks is a justification for shooting someone dead !

Its cops like these 2 who would kill you at the drop of a hat ! No wonder some wrongly think all cops are bad.
Oh lets not forget crack shot Mohammed Noor now doing 12 years for shooting an unarmed women. What makes the Noor case worse was his partner lying under oath that she slapped the rear fender!
Prints taken form the patrol car didn't find a handprint !

- brah

- in the Scott and Shaver cases they were both trashed and not following orders

- correct?

- what am I missing?










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[ja308]

Sir you are missing the video I posted earlier .

https://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/mesa-police-involved-shooting-bodycam-philip-brailsford-not-guilty-daniel-shaver/

[Vasir]

This is becoming more and more of a trash thread as the posts come in; losing the original topic to justify whatever opinion the replier has...