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  • #16
    Featureless
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2018
    • 2267

    Well if you know how to carry and it's concealed there won't be a problem unless you have to use it. Then you're in for a whole world of hurt. I'd rather avoid exposing myself to that possibility, by avoiding people and places that are likely to create those circumstances.

    Of course anything can happen anywhere and at anytime, but this is what situational awareness is about. Pay attention to what's going on around you all the time.
    California Native
    Lifelong Gun Owner
    NRA Member
    CRPA Member

    ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

    Declaration of Independence, 1776

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    • #17
      tanks
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 4038

      Originally posted by sfarchitect
      ... People wanting nothing more than their chance at 'the American Dream', 'equality of opportunity' the 'pursuit of happiness' and to not live in fear of letting their kids outside to play in 21st century America...
      If I was black, considering over 3,000+ blacks a year are killed by other blacks including children caught in cross fires or by a stray bullet I think I'd be more worried about letting my kids play outside in a black neighborhood than worry about the odd bad police officer.

      Then again black lives do not matter when taken by another black it seems.
      "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
      "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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      • #18
        The Gleam
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 12515

        Originally posted by sfarchitect
        If you commenting on the CCW thing you're not getting it. ...and then garbage, garbage, trolling, baiting, more garbage, all while lacking self-admission that no reading comprehension was applied or logic retained by this Leftist tart.
        It's quite clear what he meant, without all of your subterfuge of implication, and invisible connotation that YOU posted, whereby nothing about his original post makes any nod or derision to the topic of YOUR claim and bringing it up.

        Seems like YOU are the actual 'troll' here, as much as I think that epithet is asinine.

        In no uncertain terms, the brunt and only message I saw clear, having NOTHING to do with your never-ending Stalinist infernal inference - was this:

        "Do we really need CCWs?"


        And:

        "I'm wondering if big city cops will make arrests for otherwise law abiding people carrying concealed firearms?"

        AND:

        "....view people not involved with riots, burning and looting as a supplement to their efforts at obtaining order and safety."

        Those three cited activities have nothing to do with any of your claims of being against BLM or peaceful protests, because as we have seen, even BLM organizers have distanced themselves from those illegal activities, and equally found such things repugnant.

        So it is clear to me, he is simply pondering that with all the anarchy, mayhem, and violent chaos going on (and that is a reality) is it logical to suspect most LEO would be more flexible in their attitude of applying strict application of the law (whereby nobody else was infringed, and it carries no genuine moral turpitude) discovering an otherwise law-abiding citizen carrying without an affirmed CCW - and give it a pass?

        Would I test it? No.

        Yet the notion seems plausible this could arise, especially as it was announced that "Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva revealed his plans to increase the issuance of concealed carry permits by 400 percent."
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        Originally posted by Librarian
        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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        • #19
          heidad01
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 4902

          I just read the OP again.
          Read the last paragraph of OP's post.

          His post has really nothing to do with CCW. OP is advertising for Parler. What ever the heck that is!

          Also, member since 09 with over 10k posts, but never bought or sold a gun here! Something smells fishy.

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          • #20
            tonyxcom
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2011
            • 6397

            Originally posted by The Gleam
            It's quite clear what he meant, without all of your subterfuge of implication, and invisible connotation that YOU posted, whereby nothing about his original post makes any nod or derision to the topic of YOUR claim and bringing it up.

            Seems like YOU are the actual 'troll' here, as much as I think that epithet is asinine.
            I see you've met Karen's dad.

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            • #21
              CessnaDriver
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 10722

              Yes we need them for legal protection.

              But I would agree extenuating circumstances like not being killed should weigh on one’s mind when rule of law collapses.


              And yes we should be like AZ.
              Last edited by CessnaDriver; 06-25-2020, 2:58 PM.


              "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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              • #22
                ja308
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2009
                • 12660

                Originally posted by heidad01
                I just read the OP again.
                Read the last paragraph of OP's post.

                His post has really nothing to do with CCW. OP is advertising for Parler. What ever the heck that is!

                Also, member since 09 with over 10k posts, but never bought or sold a gun here! Something smells fishy.
                I don't buy or sell guns, because I have want and keep what I have.
                I have no problem with those who do buy, sell, trade or whatever .

                Truth be told I am an avid shooter, instructor and voracious reader of everything relating to the gun culture and American freedom.

                Parler is a free speech, progun, version of twitter that appeals to people tired of getting silenced and censored for posting truth that goes against the fake news narrative.
                Parler is for every shooter who's been kicked off , timed out, or silenced by democrat twitter, facebook or next-door !
                Currently I am following Sheriff David Clarke, Congressman Devin Nunes, Eric Trump and several other advocates of American freedom !

                Based on what I see with the burning, looting, statues destroyed and anarchy in some cities. Its my belief a law abiding person could carry and LEO would probably look the other way in most cases !

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                • #23
                  tonyxcom
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 6397

                  Paid post is a paid post.

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                  • #24
                    Barang
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 12726

                    Originally posted by heidad01
                    I just read the OP again.
                    Read the last paragraph of OP's post.

                    His post has really nothing to do with CCW. OP is advertising for Parler. What ever the heck that is!

                    Also, member since 09 with over 10k posts, but never bought or sold a gun here! Something smells fishy.
                    why would buying and selling guns matter here? some people buy their firearms elsewhere and keeping them.

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                    • #25
                      ja308
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 12660

                      Its a hallmark of a gun culture member to always want to further freedom ,

                      Whether through marksman tips, books to advance liberty or even business's that offer alternatives to the globalist anti american, anti gun agenda.

                      It was cal gunners who made me aware of progun web search engine, DOGPILE that I use instead of antigun google.
                      Thank you friends for that information !

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                      • #26
                        The War Wagon
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10294

                        NO.


                        But UNTIL they're done away with, it beats jail.
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                        • #27
                          pacrat
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2014
                          • 10283

                          Ressident "sftroll" claimed.

                          People wanting nothing more than their chance at 'the American Dream', 'equality of opportunity' the 'pursuit of happiness' and to not live in fear of letting their kids outside to play in 21st century America.
                          A well documented falsehood promoted by leftist propaganda.

                          If they TRULY wanted "equality of opportunity". They would NOT embrace "affirmative action". Which is a racially divisive mandate making them SPECIAL not EQUAL.

                          And recently published statements by the BLM founders anarchist political agenda, make it perfectly clear what their motives are.

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                          • #28
                            heidad01
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 4902

                            Originally posted by ja308
                            I don't buy or sell guns, because I have want and keep what I have.
                            I have no problem with those who do buy, sell, trade or whatever .

                            Truth be told I am an avid shooter, instructor and voracious reader of everything relating to the gun culture and American freedom.

                            Parler is a free speech, progun, version of twitter that appeals to people tired of getting silenced and censored for posting truth that goes against the fake news narrative.
                            Parler is for every shooter who's been kicked off , timed out, or silenced by democrat twitter, facebook or next-door !
                            Currently I am following Sheriff David Clarke, Congressman Devin Nunes, Eric Trump and several other advocates of American freedom !

                            Based on what I see with the burning, looting, statues destroyed and anarchy in some cities. Its my belief a law abiding person could carry and LEO would probably look the other way in most cases !
                            You are spreading fud and terrible fallacies that will get people in serious legal trouble.

                            There is no such thing as getting caught carrying a concealed and loaded gun without a CCW, and the officer just gives back the gun and sends the guy on his way.

                            NO frigging chance of that, not before hell freezes over, and not in California.

                            Care to share some examples of what you are preaching???

                            Stop telling people to break the law because some imaginary police will not enforce it.

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                            • #29
                              FNP45TACTICAL
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 705

                              Better to be tried by 11 then carried by 6! That’s my motto. That and everybody Wang Chung tonight.

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                              • #30
                                Featureless
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Mar 2018
                                • 2267

                                Originally posted by sfarchitect
                                If you commenting on the CCW thing you're not getting it. This is another Ja308 troll thread. It's sole intent was to undermine and discredit BLM and the twenty something percent of our population merely wanting to be treated equally. People wanting nothing more than their chance at 'the American Dream', 'equality of opportunity' the 'pursuit of happiness' and to not live in fear of letting their kids outside to play in 21st century America.

                                "All truths go though three stages; first they are denied, then they are violently resisted, only lastly are they accepted as being self evident."

                                Our OP is none too happy that most of America is finally waking up and getting to the third part of that. So he'll do everything he can to undermine, dismiss, diminish, discredit, deflect, or 'whatabout' in order to stay in that first part.

                                Wanna' know the exact day when Ronald Reagan as Governor of California decided he was in favor of gun control? The exact same day he saw Huey Newton and the Black Panthers open carrying on the steps of Oakland City Hall (or was it?) the Capital in Sacramento.
                                So you support looting and burning private property, destruction of public property, assaults and beatings and street riots?

                                WTH is your major malfunction?
                                California Native
                                Lifelong Gun Owner
                                NRA Member
                                CRPA Member

                                ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

                                Declaration of Independence, 1776

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