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[fal_762x51]

You call it poaching. I call it right place, right time.

[Mitch]

Seeing this lately. Guy comes into a shop looking to sell or trade a gun. Two things happen. Another customer asks him what he wants for it and tries to strike a deal on the premises. Or, the guy gets a wholesale offer from the dealer, then another customer who has been eavesdropping offers the guy more. Either way, the two parties then want to do a PPT at the shop.

Done it myself.

Walked into Turners in Fountain Valley, guy at the gun counter was trying to sell a Mini-30 and a Benelli M1. I was heading for the counter and still ten feet away when I heard the Turners guy offer for the Mini-30, something absurd like $150. Before I even got to the counter I said, "I will give you $250 for that Mini-30." Guy behind the counter told us both to get the hell out of his store. We made a deal in the parking lot and the next day did a transfer at another gun store. Wish I'd bought the M1 as well.

Was it rude? Sure it was, but we didn't stand around and argue, we left when he told us to leave. And while I understand dealers have to make a profit on resale of guns, low-balling $150 for a Mini-30, even 15 years ago, is pretty rude too. Hell, I felt a little guilty giving the guy $250 for it.

You certainly wouldn't want to make a habit of it, especially at a place where you want to go back again. I must confess I had fewer qualms doing this at a Turners than I would have at, say, RifleGear. Maybe if it happened at RifleGear I might have asked, "Excuse me, but I would be happy to pay that man more than you are offering for that rifle, would you mind if we made a deal? Or would you prefer we went somewhere else?" And I have a funny feeling the RifleGear guys would have smiled and pulled out a 4473 at that point.

[joepamjohn]

But overall, legal firearm transfers is where they make the most money. ... There's not much markup on selling new firearms, but there's a substantial markup on selling used firearms. Buy a used $500 gun for $250 then sell it for $375. But overall, legal firearm transfers is where they make the most money.

A whole $10.00? Wow!

[SanDiego619]

A whole $10.00? Wow!

Ten buckaroonies!!!! Let's have a party!!!

[Bestguns]

A whole $10.00? Wow!

I think knightsofround meant sales of new guns and not $10 PPTs.

[Spyder]

I picked up a Dan Wesson this way. Guy came in and shop said they weren't interested. I asked how much he wanted for it. Told me 500 bucks. I handed him 5 of the 32 hundred dollar bills that were in my pocket, as I had just sold a fairly pricey rifle, and shook his hand before starting paperwork.

I spent another hundred on random crap and ammo I didn't need at the shop to give them some business for the hassle.

[Cuda440]

A whole $10.00? Wow!

$10 is the charge on PPTs where both parties are present

If you order a gun online or have it shipped to a local FFL from another person, its called a ffl transfer, not a PPT. FFLs may charge whatever they like for this service, most cases its DROS plus $75-$125.

making roughly $100 without even having to purchase the gun in the first place is easy money, just fill out the same paperwork and hold it for 10 days.

[stormvet]

Right place right time, it’s happened to me a few times. Two milk creates full of 12 gauge birdshot for $40, a 22 mag bolt rifle (Savage if I remember right) $50 and this beauty for $39.

[SanDiego619]

Nice scores!

[AragornElessar86]

I can understand the issue. For example, card shops don't allow that sort of thing.

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I'm not required by law to buy cards through a licensed dealer, nor is there a large portion of the market that is intimidated by the laws restricting card ownership, transportation, and sales such that they would never think of posting online that they have cards for sale. Nor are cards banned from the major non-card specific ecommerce sites.

That to me is the big difference, and yeah, I guess it sucks for the LGS. At the same time, it's not like it's a surprise. You knew this was the situation when you got into the business. I have no sympathy for people who complain about the terms of the industry they voluntarily chose.

[AragornElessar86]

I don't want used guns.

So why do you get mad when people sell a used gun in your store? You didn't want it anyway.

[Bestguns]

I'm not required by law to buy cards through a licensed dealer, nor is there a large portion of the market that is intimidated by the laws restricting card ownership, transportation, and sales such that they would never think of posting online that they have cards for sale. Nor are cards banned from the major non-card specific ecommerce sites.

That to me is the big difference, and yeah, I guess it sucks for the LGS. At the same time, it's not like it's a surprise. You knew this was the situation when you got into the business. I have no sympathy for people who complain about the terms of the industry they voluntarily chose.

I think ahom meant car shops.

[AragornElessar86]

I think ahom meant car shops.

Doesn't really change the point.

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[edgerly779]

I picked up 2 c&r years ago at turners turners said to old not worth dealing with. A sporterized enfield 30/06 and an old stevens 20 single shot $200 for both.

[caliguy93]

So what happens when you’re in the store and someone brings in their late father or late husbands colt python and the gun shop offers $1000 to the unknowing person.

So you just let that happen or do you tell them that the gun is worth twice that and should be an easy sell on Calguns and you’d be happy to make a higher offer if they want to skip all the hassle?

Iv seen a gun shop tell someone they will offer them nothing for a gun they inherited and knew nothing about due to the condition but will still take it off their hands if they don’t want anything to do with it. Should
You step in then or just let that happen?

I guess it depends on what kind of relationship you want with that particular gun shop.