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[robertfchew]

You are so right about this. I have seen both ends of the spectrum.

One place I go to a lot had to let an employee go due to his behavior along these lines. I hope you understand that I won't name the business.

On the other hand I also go to River City Gun Exchange in Sacramento a lot. More than once while waiting for my turn I have seen their employees patiently explain to a visitor the market value of the gun they want to get rid of, the reasonable amount of time that it would stay on the rack, etc. I have even witnessed them refuse to take a consignment gun because there was no market for it. Not that the store wouldn't make any money, but the Remington 742 that their late husband swore would sell for $1000 after his death would likely stay on the rack forever because there is no one looking for one. They are very honest and I can't recommend them highly enough.

And no, I don't have any connection to them.

Bought my first ever gun there I will do business with them again

[russ13]

[DB>]

I think the elephant in the room is being missed here....

Scenario 1 -
If it's an ON roster gun or one where the roster doesn't apply, that's one thing - they need to have room for a markup and the time before they can find a buyer, but there's a market. Stores have to pay out very low amounts on "used" stuff to make any money, regardless of the product involved! If they make an offer and the seller accepts, that's fair. If the seller declines the offer, then I don't see anything wrong with making a better offer - preferably outside the store, but again, it's "fair game", not "poaching".

Scenario 2 -
Why would a store want to buy anything OFF roster (can only resell to LE)? Or say a long gun in a non-legal configuration (even presuming it can be made compliant, they would be in big trouble for purchasing it "as is", from my understanding)? Or a poorly cared for gun that needed work (unless they have an in house smith)? ALL of those seem to me to be valid scenarios, and 100% reasonable for a "private party" to "step in" where appropriate to help the seller do a legal transfer.

Most "retail" businesses are about selling NEW stuff, and the few that fiddle with the "used" or "pre owned" game take a LOT of risk, regardless of the product involved... I'd expect most to be HAPPY that they didn't get stuck with a potential headache, rather than complaining about how they "might" have made a few extra $$ off "granny"....

[JCHavasu]

how the hack you lose money on doing PPT. the employees are being paid hourly,and the space in the safe is a one time investment.

10 dollars are still money, unless everyone is as busy as the cashiers in dollar stores

If the shop has an employee doing nothing, then yes doing a PPT is a $10 profit. But consider a shop may need only two staff two handle "normal" non-PPT transactions. Now add on PPT transactions and they may need additional staff to handle the extra volume. As was mentioned rent, workers comp, etc is an issue.

As an example how well would a shop do handling ONLY private party transactions at $10 per which take 15 to 30 minutes each? At most they could handle four per hour and make $40 before paying expenses. Tough to make a living that way.

[smle-man]

A couple of times I was in a shop when someone came in to sell some used guns. The seller didn't like the price offered and walked out. I followed and got some good deals outside and then PPT in the shop. The shops didn't have an issue. I wouldn't try to make a deal before the shop decided what they were going to do, and never in the store.

[The War Wagon]

What was your customer selling?
What did you offer him?

I'm sure that's only been happening since the beginning of gun shops.

[Barang]

Seeing this lately. Guy comes into a shop looking to sell or trade a gun. Two things happen. Another customer asks him what he wants for it and tries to strike a deal on the premises. Or, the guy gets a wholesale offer from the dealer, then another customer who has been eavesdropping offers the guy more. Either way, the two parties then want to do a PPT at the shop.

if i want to buy that gun, i'd negotiate the price outside the store.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Would definitely procede outside the shop.

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[Gun Kraft]

Why would a store want to buy anything OFF roster (can only resell to LE)?

I think you're mistaken here. Used off-roster guns are totally fine for gun stores to purchase and resell.

[1911su16b870]

Always go through the shop and hopefully you have rapport with the shop and can do a deal through them after the individual consigns/sells to the shop.

[SanDiego619]

I think you're mistaken here. Used off-roster guns are totally fine for gun stores to purchase and resell.

But a shop can't resell an off roster gun to non-LE

Only PPT can do off roster, not a shop to private person

[CSACANNONEER]

Gun shops aren't lowballing. They are making an offer on a piece that they weren't in the market for and, they will have to keep their investment tied up for 30 days before they can sell it. It's much easier for them to order what they want and be able to flip it immediately. So, why should they invest in a used gun that they didn't already want in their shop just because it walks in the door? They have rent and other overhead to pay and they need to make a profit to stay in business so, if someone walks in with a gun they want to sell and accepts the shops offer, what's the problem? The seller could have spent more time and money marketing it him/herself but wanted a quick and simple sale.

That said, I do not recommend anyone sell to any shop unless they understand that they will probably only get 25-50% of what they could have got for it selling it another way.

[Master_Prestige]

But a shop can't resell an off roster gun to non-LE

Only PPT can do off roster, not a shop to private person

Consignment

[SanDiego619]

Consignment

Well, he specifically said the shop can "purchase and resell" off-roster guns. Consignment is not exactly the same, but now that you mention it, when something is sold on consignment can the shop do it without the seller there or does the seller have to come in to complete the paperwork once a buyer is found?

[Master_Prestige]

Well, he specifically said the shop can "purchase and resell" off-roster guns. Consignment is not exactly the same, but now that you mention it, when something is sold on consignment can the shop do it without the seller there or does the seller have to come in to complete the paperwork once a buyer is found?

Nope. Buyer deals directly with FFL