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[ourTINman]

Is this when the gun that's in 10 day storage gets a "mysterious" scratch?

Do you think that LGSs will take a customers gun to the range and shoot it while still in the 10 period?

I wish the manufacturers would install a barrel lock or something and mail the key to the actual customer.

[SanDiego619]

Do you think that LGSs will take a customers gun to the range and shoot it while still in the 10 period?

I wish the manufacturers would install a barrel lock or something and mail the key to the actual customer.

They only do that if the gun is really cool

[cal3gunner]

Gun shop buys a new gun for $400 and sells it for $500.
Person wants to sell the same used gun to a gun shop.
The gun shop should offer less than $400 or why not just buy a new one? Shop can't sell it for close to $500 or why wouldn't a customer just buy a new one.
It's simple. I would offer around $350 max for the used one and sell it for $450. The shop has more time invested in a used gun. The shop has to negotiate price, inspect, clean, and maybe replace a broken part, and possibly deal with an upset buyer when the used gun doesn't function 100%
It's a lot easier to just call your distributor and order more new ones for $400 and sell them all day for $500.

If someone doesn't want to put the work in themselves to sell their property, they can go to a dealer but shouldn't expect top dollar.

[Master_Prestige]

Gun shop buys a new gun for $400 and sells it for $500.
Person wants to sell the same used gun to a gun shop.
The gun shop should offer less than $400 or why not just buy a new one? Shop can't sell it for close to $500 or why wouldn't a customer just buy a new one.
It's simple. I would offer around $350 max for the used one and sell it for $450. The shop has more time invested in a used gun. The shop has to negotiate price, inspect, clean, and maybe replace a broken part, and possibly deal with an upset buyer when the used gun doesn't function 100%
It's a lot easier to just call your distributor and order more new ones for $400 and sell them all day for $500.

If someone doesn't want to put the work in themselves to sell their property, they can go to a dealer but shouldn't expect top dollar.

FINALLY !

I laugh at all these dudes posting their garbage for MSRP and bumping for 2 years. Just drop the price and let the gun sell.

[pythonfan]

I would imagine the margins are slimmer than $100 on a $500 new gun for the gun shop owner. But I dont know.

[CSACANNONEER]

Gun shop buys a new gun for $400 and sells it for $500.
Person wants to sell the same used gun to a gun shop.
The gun shop should offer less than $400 or why not just buy a new one? Shop can't sell it for close to $500 or why wouldn't a customer just buy a new one.
It's simple. I would offer around $350 max for the used one and sell it for $450. The shop has more time invested in a used gun. The shop has to negotiate price, inspect, clean, and maybe replace a broken part, and possibly deal with an upset buyer when the used gun doesn't function 100%
It's a lot easier to just call your distributor and order more new ones for $400 and sell them all day for $500.

If someone doesn't want to put the work in themselves to sell their property, they can go to a dealer but shouldn't expect top dollar.

Why would you pay $350 for a used gun that you have to wait 30 days to resell? It would be far more profitable to invest $400 in a new gun and sell it for $450 the next day and simply repeat that several times during the 30 days that you would have to wait to make $100 once. FFLs need to make it worth their while to invest in something they might not even want and will have to tie up capitol for 30 days before they can legally sell it. $200-$250 might be worth the shops efforts IF they think they can flip it in a reasonable amount of time. IF not, maybe $100-$150 just to have it in inventory.

[brassburnz]

I always try to buy something else when I do a PPT at a small shop. I usually look for a case for whatever I'm buying if I don't already have one or maybe cleaning supplies. I want to give the shop a subliminal message my purchase is related to the PPT.

When it was still Kings Gunsworks, I'd always bring something for the staff if I was doing a PPT. Sometimes it was something simple like a bag of Halloween candy from the Smart & Final right next door. Other times it was a pair of AMC movie ticket coupons picked up from Costco. They got to know me and I got to know them.

This works better at small shops with small staffs. Has a minimal affect at a place like Turners.

[MARKFP]

A couple of times I was in a shop when someone came in to sell some used guns. The seller didn't like the price offered and walked out. I followed and got some good deals outside and then PPT in the shop. The shops didn't have an issue. I wouldn't try to make a deal before the shop decided what they were going to do, and never in the store.

I've done the same thing at my LGS, but I also have the owners blessing if it's something he's not interested in and I am

[SVT-40]

A couple of times I was in a shop when someone came in to sell some used guns. The seller didn't like the price offered and walked out. I followed and got some good deals outside and then PPT in the shop. The shops didn't have an issue. I wouldn't try to make a deal before the shop decided what they were going to do, and never in the store.

This is the classy way to do it...

I did the same at Federal Ordinance back in the 80's a guy was trying to sell an Israeli heavy barrel FAL. FTF sales of long guns was legal back then and I bought it in the parking lot.

When I worked at a shop if people tried to butt in while we were dealing with someone who wanted to sell a item, that person got ejected from the shop.

[bronco75a]

Maybe the guy offering the gun for sale to the store is working in cahoots with the guys offering him money for the gun on the spot to drive up the price for the store owner once they ultimately decide not to buy it.

[Fishslayer]

Considered VERY poor form, especially doing it right in front of the guy. I'm surprised the owner didn't give 'em both the boot immediately.

At the very least, wait in the parking lot and perhaps come back later or go to a different FFL.

[hambam105]

I remember seeing similar situation before.

The owner and the poacher went to hospital shortly thereafter.
The poacher needed the owner's size 13 brown leather boot
surgically removed from his butt.

And the owner needed to get his boot back.

[audiophil2]

Anyone that try's dealing in my store must pay me a 30% commission for using my store to conduct business. They would have never known of the deal if they were not in my store. If they refuse they are banned from the store for life. Both buyer and seller. Usually their ego takes over and they walk out promising never to return but later they come back and pay my commission.

I buy guns for 30 cents on the dollar. I don't want used guns. People do not take care of their guns that will go to a gun dealer to sell. The good owners sell privately. I always tell customers to sell privately for more money and then bring cash to me.

Folks don't understand dealer cost vs retail.

I can buy a $500 gun and list if for $550 and be happy. That is 10% gross.
But that gun is $596 after taxes.
I do volume. My distributor reps love me because I give them their commission checks through volume so I get allocated guns in return. Buying used steals food from their table.

Why would I buy a used gun for anywhere close to $600? I will buy for $180 which is 30% of $600 and list it for $400. But if it sits long I can dump it for $200 and still make a few dollars. I don't want guns rotting away on my shelf so I have to have wiggle room to get rid of the gun.
Keep in mind if you are selling your gun that means it is either junk or you are strapped for cash. Those are the two common reasons. All other reasons are rare. I'm not buying your junk at retail. Most of the time I refuse to buy because the used guns are common known junk. I only buy the quality guns and if I know someone looking for a particular gun I can offer more because I can sell it in 5 minutes.

[M1A_KICHI]

Seriously what gun shops offer is criminal. They prey on the lil old lady seeking off her dead husband's cache or some other clueless relative out to make a quick buck.

Very true and I have seen this first hands. About 20 years ago I saw this elderly woman come into a store with a couple lugers that her now deceased husband owned. Not sure if they were bring backs or what but the manager of the store offered her only a few hundred for each. I was young and didn't want to seem like a bad guy to the store since I frequented there every week and knew some of the employees well. If I could revisit that time again, I would not hesitate to tell that woman what those were worth and even make a fair (current market) offer.

It is actually because of this is why I wrote down every firearm I own, what I paid, and if any historical significance so in the unfortunate event of me passing early, she is not that woman.

[hambam105]

I've lived long enough to see what happens to all those guns some crook bought for two
cents on the dollar from some unsuspecting customer.