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[9Cal_OC]

So if I go to a shop just to do a PPT, or if I buy a gun online and have it shipped there, they make no money on the transfer?

Gosh, I feel a little guilty now.

PPT, they get $10. Online or non-PPT transfers, they can set their own price for receiving it plus DROS. Prices range from $20-100 plus DROS

[rodralig]

So if I go to a shop just to do a PPT, or if I buy a gun online and have it shipped there, they make no money on the transfer?

Gosh, I feel a little guilty now.

Very little... However, when you order online, the receiving FFL can charge an additional fee to facilitate the transfers. I have heard that some LGS charges as high as $100. One of the LGS close to me charges $65 for online transfers.

Surprising that you are saying this - you have an iTrader rating of "6" and been a member since 2013.

couldn't the store just tell them that they won't do their transfer?

Against the rules for an FFL. They can be reported, etc.


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[BarrelProof]

couldn't the store just tell them that they won't do their transfer?

[six seven tango]

So if I go to a shop just to do a PPT, or if I buy a gun online and have it shipped there, they make no money on the transfer?

Gosh, I feel a little guilty now.

No, we're talking 2 different animals. A shop is limited by law to $10 plus DROS for a PPT. With a PPT, both the seller and the buyer must be physically present in the shop.

If you buy a gun on line and have it shipped in, then the shop can charge you what ever they want plus DROS, since that is not a PPT.

[SanDiego619]

Very little... However, when you order online, the receiving FFL can charge an additional fee to facilitate the transfers. I have heard that some LGS charges as high as $100. One of the LGS close to me charges $65 for online transfers.

Surprising that you are saying this - you have an iTrader rating of "6" and been a member since 2013.




Against the rules for an FFL. They can be reported, etc.


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I didn't really think about it to be honest, I have only bought guns online not face to face, my iTrader is from buying and selling mags and stuff not FFL items. I did notice that my favorite LGS charges a lot for online orders. I guess I was confusing online transfers with PPTs, I've never done a PPT but I do remember that they are cheaper to do. So they make ten bucks on a PPT, each one takes a while, even if they did PPTs all day it would be hard to break even.

Now I don't feel so guilty because they still made some money from my online orders, and I also buy ammo or other stuff whenever I go.

[rodralig]

Penal Code 26825

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=26825

while 26800 mentions the penalty for refusals, etc.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=26800

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[ourTINman]

. One of the LGS close to me charges $65 for online transfers.
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for long guns:
$150 for me. Or if I got to another LGS its 10% of gun cost.

[rodralig]

I didn't really think about it to be honest, I have only bought guns online not face to face, my iTrader is from buying and selling mags and stuff not FFL items. I did notice that my favorite LGS charges a lot for online orders. I guess I was confusing online transfers with PPTs, I've never done a PPT but I do remember that they are cheaper to do. So they make ten bucks on a PPT, each one takes a while, even if they did PPTs all day it would be hard to break even.

Now I don't feel so guilty because they still made some money from my online orders, and I also buy ammo or other stuff whenever I go.

Correct. And that is why some of us, especially for the neighborhood LGS, we buy something extra to "support" them... It is NOT their fault that they can't sell "Unsafe" firearms to the non-Active LE people like some us...


That said, as I posted prior to this - an FFL that refuses a PPT can actually be reported. A penalty is forfeiture of the license...



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[SanDiego619]

Correct. And that is why some of us, especially for the neighborhood LGS, we buy something extra to "support" them... It is NOT their fault that they can't sell "Unsafe" firearms to the non-Active LE people like some us...


That said, as I posted prior to this - an FFL that refuses a PPT can actually be reported. A penalty is forfeiture of the license...



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I will definitely keep that in mind if I ever do a PPT!! Good to know for sure.

[BarrelProof]

If the guys don’t have anything to sell me when my last PPT DROS clears, I hope they either like whiskey or let me buy them lunch.

[ohsmily]

Huh? PPT (private party transfer) is limited by law to $35.00 which includes the DROS.

[rodralig]

Huh? PPT (private party transfer) is limited by law to $35.00 which includes the DROS.

Actually it went up from $35 to $47.19.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs#21G

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[knightsofround]

Huh? PPT (private party transfer) is limited by law to $35.00 which includes the DROS.

Yeah my bad, I got FFL and PPT mixed up.


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[BarrelProof]

Actually it went up from $35 to $47.19.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs#21G

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[BarrelProof]

Also those that don’t charge you for DROS mistakes on ammunition because DROS is too stupid to recognize RD and ROAD as the same or *****ing about where your suffix goes, are also loosing money