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  • #16
    Rakso
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 1323

    Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Getting ready for another 200 shots this Sunday.

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    • #17
      Great Made America
      Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 468

      Originally posted by Rakso
      Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Getting ready for another 200 shots this Sunday.
      Have fun!

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      • #18
        diverwcw
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2693

        Looks like anticipation, very common. To overcome it, center your front sight in the rear sight and concentrate on the front sight while taking up the slack in the trigger. Concentrate on equal height, equal height and the shot should be a surprise when it goes off. Also, your grip should be a push forward with your shooting hand and pull back with your support hand. Push/pull until you start to shake and then back off until there is no shake. Picture your grip as a vise with the grip on the front and back strap of the gun, not the sides.
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        • #19
          tabascoz28
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 3364

          Is it just me or an optical illusion, but the head shots look like 9mm or 380s? The one that hit near 7 looks smaller than the rest of the groupings.

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          • #20
            Rakso
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 1323

            Originally posted by tabascoz28
            Is it just me or an optical illusion, but the head shots look like 9mm or 380s? The one that hit near 7 looks smaller than the rest of the groupings.
            None of the above, just ****ty/cheap paper targets.

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            • #21
              Rakso
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1323

              Originally posted by diverwcw
              Looks like anticipation, very common. To overcome it, center your front sight in the rear sight and concentrate on the front sight while taking up the slack in the trigger. Concentrate on equal height, equal height and the shot should be a surprise when it goes off. Also, your grip should be a push forward with your shooting hand and pull back with your support hand. Push/pull until you start to shake and then back off until there is no shake. Picture your grip as a vise with the grip on the front and back strap of the gun, not the sides.
              I appreciate the advise. I'm gonna take my notes to the range, I really want to get better at this.

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              • #22
                BigFatGuy
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 3176

                Originally posted by Rakso
                I appreciate the advise. I'm gonna take my notes to the range, I really want to get better at this.
                One thing I've found, 50 or 100 rounds every week does you more good than 500 rounds once a month (which seems to be how most people go to the range, rarely, and they make a day of it).

                With every shot, "meditate" on it a bit, make sure you are doing each thing correctly as you do it.

                For a new shooter, you're either quite talented, or dedicated to practice. I think you'll find yourself improving at a good rate.
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                I made this target for the NRA's Marksman pistol test. I think it's a lot better than the paper plate they suggest.

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                • #23
                  aklon
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                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3119

                  Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                  Not bad!

                  Like anything else, with proper practice, you will keep improving.

                  For me, the most important things to work on are smoothly pressing the trigger, and figuring out the best part of my finger to place on the trigger. I can actually cause my groups to slide left or right just by moving my finger a few mm left or right...
                  I was taught to pull the trigger with the tip of my finger in a line straight back towards the crease where the thumb angles out from the palm. This has the desired effect of having the trigger follow the lines of the frame evenly.
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                  • #24
                    Bassbones13
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 62

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                    • #25
                      diverwcw
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                      • Dec 2012
                      • 2693

                      Originally posted by Rakso
                      I appreciate the advise. I'm gonna take my notes to the range, I really want to get better at this.
                      If you are interested, I have certificate for a FREE 2 or 4 day handgun/rifle/shotgun class at Front Sight in Pahrump, Nevada. PM me for further details.
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                      • #26
                        IVC
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 17602

                        Originally posted by diverwcw
                        Also, your grip should be a push forward with your shooting hand and pull back with your support hand.
                        A word of caution about this - it is a valid technique and it can be effective, but it's no longer the technique that the competitive shooters use. It's somewhat similar to using Weaver stance, or crossing thumbs the Front Sight (training facility) way.

                        CORRECTION: the crossed out comment should be next to "Weaver stance," not "crossing thumbs" as pointed below. My mistake when typing those examples.
                        Last edited by IVC; 07-19-2019, 11:49 PM.
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                        • #27
                          XDJYo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 6893

                          Originally posted by Rakso
                          I appreciate the advise. I'm gonna take my notes to the range, I really want to get better at this.
                          OP-Your target looks really good! Keep it up! It took me a LONG time to get where you are.

                          Here are some suggestions from my own experience.

                          Dry practice at home. A lot. **Make sure everything is unloaded and your ammo is in another room if practical. You REALLY REALLY REALLY want to make sure you don't crack off a round in your house.

                          Buy some snap caps. They're expensive, but they pay dividends in your training. When you're at the range, mix a snap cap somewhere along with live ammo in the magazine. You'll see how well you are doing. If your muzzle dips, you're anticipating the recoil. Pretty soon, you'll be able to anticipate the flinch and stop the shot prior to!

                          When you are shooting, just concentrate on the front sight. Press the trigger straight back just like when your dry practicing at home. Don't look at your targets to see where the bullet went! Shoot 3 shots or so, THEN, look. The target will tell you how you do. If you're groups are about the size of an open hand, GREAT!!! Keep doing that!

                          I second a 4 day class at Front Sight. It's a BLAST!!! But, any good training session will be beneficial.

                          Happy shooting and be safe!
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                          • #28
                            Rakso
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 1323

                            Originally posted by BigFatGuy
                            One thing I've found, 50 or 100 rounds every week does you more good than 500 rounds once a month (which seems to be how most people go to the range, rarely, and they make a day of it).

                            With every shot, "meditate" on it a bit, make sure you are doing each thing correctly as you do it.

                            For a new shooter, you're either quite talented, or dedicated to practice. I think you'll find yourself improving at a good rate.
                            I appreciate it, I am trying to at least shoot twice a month. Oh and when I said range I meant desert.

                            Without fun, what is the point, right?

                            Originally posted by diverwcw
                            If you are interested, I have certificate for a FREE 2 or 4 day handgun/rifle/shotgun class at Front Sight in Pahrump, Nevada. PM me for further details.
                            Wow, Thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it. I will keep it in mind. Work schedule is always a roadblock for me.

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                            • #29
                              diverwcw
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2693

                              Originally posted by IVC
                              .....or crossing thumbs the Front Sight (training facility) way.
                              They don't teach crossing the thumbs, in fact they teach you to NOT cross them.
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                              • #30
                                Eureka1911
                                Member
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 367

                                A little drill I do is to put a target out at about 5 yards or so.
                                Aim normally, then close your eyes and fire.
                                You'll be amazed. Takes the anticipation out of it. Helped me a lot.

                                Another drill that helped me was to get one round loaded, then drop the mag.
                                Fire normally, then fire again on the empty chamber concentrating on a steady sight picture.

                                This is a 10-yard target with my SA .45. 8 rounds at just under 1 per second. Black circle is 4-inches across.

                                IMG_5362.jpg

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