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  • Rakso
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 1323

    10 yard shots

    Update 7/22:
    Thank you all for your advise, went out yesterday and shot some more, check pics on last posts.

    10yds, 40S&W, stock sights, range ammo nothing fancy.
    I've shot about 500 rounds by now. (I've never owned a .40 before)

    Looking to improve my shotting skills any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. (No idea why the pic went sideways)





    Last edited by Rakso; 10-05-2021, 8:43 PM.
  • #2
    BigFatGuy
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3176

    Not bad!

    Like anything else, with proper practice, you will keep improving.

    For me, the most important things to work on are smoothly pressing the trigger, and figuring out the best part of my finger to place on the trigger. I can actually cause my groups to slide left or right just by moving my finger a few mm left or right...
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    • #3
      Rakso
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 1323

      Originally posted by BigFatGuy
      Not bad!

      Like anything else, with proper practice, you will keep improving.

      For me, the most important things to work on are smoothly pressing the trigger, and figuring out the best part of my finger to place on the trigger. I can actually cause my groups to slide left or right just by moving my finger a few mm left or right...

      Thanks, I've noticed I go left/down. I've been trying to work on that.

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      • #4
        BigFatGuy
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3176

        if you're right-handed, I think that's a sign of a flinch in anticipation of the shot... you're trying to "control" the gun before the shot.

        You can detect this by having a friend load a fired brass into the magazine, and having them watch you "fire" teh dead round. If you're flinching, you'll flinch on that round.

        Some people say "dry fire" has helped them, but for me, knowing that the gun isn't loaded fixes all my problems, and they come back when I load live ammo. I found, simply practicing with an overall sense of relaxation, and concentrating on follow-through (holding the trigger back after the bang) were the trick.
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        I've written up my ongoing adventures as I learn to hunt.

        Yes, you CAN fit a case of shotgun shells into a .50cal ammo can.

        I think i found an optimal solution for ammo can labeling.


        I made this target for the NRA's Marksman pistol test. I think it's a lot better than the paper plate they suggest.

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        • #5
          Rakso
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 1323

          Originally posted by BigFatGuy
          if you're right-handed, I think that's a sign of a flinch in anticipation of the shot... you're trying to "control" the gun before the shot.

          You can detect this by having a friend load a fired brass into the magazine, and having them watch you "fire" teh dead round. If you're flinching, you'll flinch on that round.

          Some people say "dry fire" has helped them, but for me, knowing that the gun isn't loaded fixes all my problems, and they come back when I load live ammo. I found, simply practicing with an overall sense of relaxation, and concentrating on follow-through (holding the trigger back after the bang) were the trick.
          Noted that.

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          • #6
            Erion929
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 4706

            Rob Leatham's 3 rules:

            -- Hold the gun really tight
            -- Point it where you want to hit
            -- Pull the trigger without moving the gun (sights)

            Aiming is useless if you keep moving the gun/sights.

            I hold the sights and press the trigger back as if pulling the front sight back through the rear sight "goalposts"....that seems to work for me

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            • #7
              tabascoz28
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 3364

              Depends on what you're training for. That will pass CCW just fine if you're drawing from the holster.

              If you're just starting out then train under perfect conditions and get your muscle memory down to hit the target without thinking too much.

              Later, try drawing from the waist and reloading during the shoot and see if you can get back on target. I even have dummy rounds to simulate bad bullets or jams.

              Then move on to moving while shooting and shooting behind different covers, I just use a large cardboard box which can be folded down again after use.

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              • #8
                Erion929
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 4706

                Originally posted by tabascoz28
                Depends on what you're training for. That will pass CCW just fine if you're drawing from the holster.

                If you're just starting out then train under perfect conditions and get your muscle memory down to hit the target without thinking too much.

                Later, try drawing from the waist and reloading during the shoot and see if you can get back on target. I even have dummy rounds to simulate bad bullets or jams.

                Then move on to moving while shooting and shooting behind different covers, I just use a large cardboard box which can be folded down again after use.

                It sounds like he's just static target shooting a new .40cal and not ready for any of the stuff you're describing ?

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    Chief-7700
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                    • May 2008
                    • 3382

                    Low and left= to much finger on the trigger. You want the center tip of your trigger finger on the trigger. Don't forget about the reset.
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                    • #11
                      NapalmCheese
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5953

                      Originally posted by Rakso
                      Looking to improve my shotting skills any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
                      Put the holes closer together.
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                      • #12
                        Skip_Dog
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 2656

                        Shoot at 3 yards. After you master that shoot 7 yards. After that move to 10.

                        Shoot at smaller targets.

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                        • #13
                          BigFatGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3176

                          Originally posted by Skip_Dog
                          Shoot at 3 yards. After you master that shoot 7 yards. After that move to 10.

                          Shoot at smaller targets.
                          This, I very much disagree with.

                          You are shooting quite well at 10 yards, but still able to see a reasonable group size.

                          If the group gets too small, it's hard to find improvement, or to tell where the rounds go.

                          I find it very helpful to shoot "just a little far away", rather than moving the target closer so the group gets smaller.
                          NRA Patron Member

                          I've written up my ongoing adventures as I learn to hunt.

                          Yes, you CAN fit a case of shotgun shells into a .50cal ammo can.

                          I think i found an optimal solution for ammo can labeling.


                          I made this target for the NRA's Marksman pistol test. I think it's a lot better than the paper plate they suggest.

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                          • #14
                            Rakso
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 1323

                            Originally posted by tabascoz28
                            Depends on what you're training for. That will pass CCW just fine if you're drawing from the holster.

                            If you're just starting out then train under perfect conditions and get your muscle memory down to hit the target without thinking too much.

                            Later, try drawing from the waist and reloading during the shoot and see if you can get back on target. I even have dummy rounds to simulate bad bullets or jams.

                            Then move on to moving while shooting and shooting behind different covers, I just use a large cardboard box which can be folded down again after use.
                            I would say I'm training to get my groups withing 8, torso first and then head at 10yards. Yes, at some point I will move forward into moving and shooting.

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                            • #15
                              Rakso
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 1323

                              Originally posted by Erion929
                              It sounds like he's just static target shooting a new .40cal and not ready for any of the stuff you're describing ?

                              .
                              Definitely not ready, but willing to learn and practice, and practice and then, keep shooting.

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