Additional reactions culled from the case thread in Litigation

[92E2]

Just so I'm clear, are they really asking Judge Benetiz:
'Please put a hold on the ruling you just made for all the same reasons that you said were not compelling enough to prevent you from making this ruling in the first place and because what we all knew was going to happen is happening.'?

I like the part where he is afraid that PRK citizens would be "FREE" or experience a little freedom.

"... individuals will be free to acquire new SCMs ..."

Then he backs it up with PSA's SHIPPING FREEDOM TO CALIFORNIA message.

Can't have FREEDOM behind the commie curtain.

[bv141]

Trump has placed a great many Judges on the 9th Circuit Court recently.

[CCWFacts]

Trump has placed a great many Judges on the 9th Circuit Court recently.

This. They have about a 50-50 chance of overturning this in the 9th.



I'm amazed they're taking that chance, because if they lose, Hawaii's mag ban is also tossed out and a circuit split is created, making this ripe for a SCOTUS decision which would also be 5-4 in our favor (or 6-3 if RBG "retires"). The odds and outcomes for them are all worse the longer they fight this.

[Featureless]

Ordinarily, I might think that the state has a decent argument that the stay is needed to preserve the status quo, but I somehow think that more is needed to continue to enforce what the judge believes to be an unconstitutional law that serves to put good law abiding folk at risk of life and limb. That goes hand and hand with the need to convince the court that the state is likely to prevail on the merits.

If 45 states have *NO* magazine restrictions, what 'merit' could CA possibly have to prevail?

[SDCarpenter]

Any chance that uploaded "stay" was an April fool's joke?

[DRM6000]

What happens if a shipment of LCMs arrive after a stay is granted?

[WoodTurner]

Any chance that uploaded "stay" was an April fool's joke?

I don't think Michel & Associates do April fool's jokes like that.
Imagine how hilarious it would be if they did though.

[Offwidth]

What happens if a shipment of LCMs arrive after a stay is granted?

Prison.

[tenemae]

What happens if a shipment of LCMs arrive after a stay is granted?

The receiving party may be in violation of 31320. I suspect any stay the judge grants might be issued with instructions to limit the probability of someone being put in that position... I.e, announce that a stay will be enacted in 5 days to allow for any packages to finish their route?

[Featureless]

Because four of the states that do have them have been upheld by federal courts of appeal?

How do those four states differ from the other 45? There must be SOME legal argument for that. What is it?

You might also note that SCOTUS will have the final say when it neuters those appellant courts.

[Featureless]

What happens if a shipment of LCMs arrive after a stay is granted?

Nothing. You received your purchase which becomes your private property to do with as you see fit.

[DRM6000]

The receiving party may be in violation of 31320. I suspect any stay the judge grants might be issued with instructions to limit the probability of someone being put in that position... I.e, announce that a stay will be enacted in 5 days to allow for any packages to finish their route?

That is what makes me cautious about placing any order for LCMs. There is the uncertainty of the timing of any potential stay, order processing and transit times.

[jcwatchdog]

That is what makes me cautious about placing any order for LCMs. There is the uncertainty of the timing of any potential stay, order processing and transit times.

That works in our favor, not against 🙂

[Syntax Error]

That is what makes me cautious about placing any order for LCMs. There is the uncertainty of the timing of any potential stay, order processing and transit times.

You snooze you lose, man.

[ford63man]

That is what makes me cautious about placing any order for LCMs. There is the uncertainty of the timing of any potential stay, order processing and transit times.

go to your LGS that sells standard capacity mags and grab a few. Mags that were law enforcement only are on sale to everyone. unfortunately most shops are closed on sunday and monday. and the open ones probably sold out to the early birds.