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  • caliberetta
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 2751

    If 10+ rd mags is unconstitutional what more the roster.

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    • Discogodfather
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2010
      • 5516

      Ordered a bunch from Prepper, Jestice, and RTG. Covered a lot of my collection including a few drums.

      Hopefully things go well! Big win here, and Judge Benny's quote is now written in stone in my sig line.

      Hopefully that other lawsuit from the "right people" doesn't screw things up.
      Originally posted by doggie
      Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
      Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
      Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
      "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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      • butlers
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 754

        Originally posted by oak18
        Prepper Gun Shop just announced on reddit that they’re selling to California right now! Hurry because they’re selling out of pmags extremely fast. Just had to edit my cart twice and ended up with 5 30 round window pmags because the other were sold out and 3 17 round Glock mags to start.
        Originally posted by Throwawayifyoureugly
        Prepper still has better prices but are getting hugged to death.
        Originally posted by 559BearDown
        The owner of Preppers will be able to retire after fulfilling tonight's orders.
        Damn you all weren't kidding. I was literally placing things in my cart and then having it show up as "out of stock" by the time I refreshed/kept shopping (it didn't help that the website was as slow as molasses).

        I keep forgetting:
        1. That there are over 4 million gun owners in California.
        2. That a lot of them are on CalGuns.
        3. And that they're notorious cheapskates who will jump on any deal/opportunity. Why, just watch us go nuts over $3 off eBay.

        Originally posted by varanidguy
        Jestice Arms may be on board as well - California no longer appears on their "will not ship to" list! http://jesticearms.com/Mags
        Originally posted by Syntax Error
        Looks like Jestice Arms is also having issues with server traffic.
        Stuff is also selling out fast here, e.g. Lancer 30-round FDE mags went from "in stock" to "out of stock" from the time I started my shopping to the time I tried to check out.

        Just placed a large order and sent a follow-up email to the owner. Fingers crossed....
        Last edited by butlers; 03-30-2019, 2:33 AM.
        "The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards." William Francis Butler (not Thucydides)

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        • Sluggz
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 35

          Looks like my magazine buying tripped the fraud protection on my card, if I miss out because of this i'm going to be pissed.🤬

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          • gobler
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 3348

            So I tried to post this in the hand gun section but it was locked..
            Any good deals on full size Beretta 9mm PX4 Storm mags?
            200 bullets at a time......
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            • Discogodfather
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2010
              • 5516

              Originally posted by gobler
              So I tried to post this in the hand gun section but it was locked..
              Any good deals on full size Beretta 9mm PX4 Storm mags?
              Jestice has factory Berreta for $24.95:

              Beretta Factory PX4 20 Round 9mm Magazine 20rd mag magazines mags clip clips 9x19 9x19mm 9
              Originally posted by doggie
              Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
              Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
              Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
              "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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              • OleCuss
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2009
                • 8831

                Originally posted by RickD427
                Kes,

                I don't think you're fully understanding of the difference between the ban on possession under Penal Code section 32310 and the liability to civil seizure under section 32390.

                The Preliminary Injunction issued by Judge Benitez on June 29, 2017 only applied to PC 32310(c) and (d). It did not apply to PC 32390.

                If you are aware of a second, or different, Preliminary Injunction issued in the case, then please cite it. I am only aware of the June 29 Preliminary Injunction.

                It's a significant point, and one that probably now is more significant due to today's decision. In today's decision, Judge Benitez explains in the dicta of his decision how PC 32390 fails to meet constitutional standards, but in the holding portion of the decision, he only invalidates PC 32310. That strikes me as being rather strange (and I suspect the reason may be in the way the case was pled by the plaintiffs - I'd like to hear from our JD's on that point) that he did not also invalidate PC 32390 in his holding.
                I hope the buyers and sellers pay attention to this.

                This ruling does look like it strikes all the relevant law and means you can buy, sell, import, and manufacture, but I'd be wary until the lawyers say it is all good-to-go.
                Last edited by OleCuss; 03-30-2019, 3:27 AM.
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                • Discogodfather
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 5516

                  Originally posted by OleCuss
                  I hope the buyers and sellers pay attention to this.

                  This ruling does look like it strikes all the relevant law and means you can buy, sell, import, and manufacture, but I'd be wary until the lawyers say it is all good-to-go.
                  You think all those business that are shipping would do that if there was any question? Have you seen what the State has done to those companies in the past for so much as shipping a rebuild kit?

                  I think it's pretty safe for the time being. The issue is when it all changes again, and then the waiting game begins.
                  Originally posted by doggie
                  Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                  Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                  Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                  "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                  • mshill
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 4460

                    Spent an hour last night unblocking all my mags. Now I need it find some M&P9 17 round mags. Given that this will (likely) be stayed Monday or Tuesday, I may have to make a quick trip to Reno to pick them up at Scheels.

                    Now that I think about it, even if this lasts only two days, the number of legally acquired LCMs in the state will have increased by an order of magnitude. Just think about the impact to enforcement of 32310(a) should 32310(c) be overturned. Benitez has almost guaranteed an all or nothing decision at the CA9 level which gives it a lot more teeth when appealed to SCOTUS.
                    Last edited by mshill; 03-30-2019, 5:48 AM.
                    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                    • judgedrift
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 391

                      "This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree besides the river of truth, and tell the whole world-- --No you move."

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                      • jarhead714
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 9032

                        So what do all the quitters in other states have to say this fine morning? Can we at least get a, “congratulations?” I may have to cancel the beach this weekend (about 80F on the water) to peel a few caps in celebration.

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                        • jmpgnr24k
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 990

                          Originally posted by DRM6000
                          This is awesome news!

                          I can just see repair kits being assembled furiously and drill bits speeding through mag rivets all across CA right now. Kids are missing dinner because dads are in the garage working on mags.
                          My thought exactly ^^^^
                          Create a law that says gun control only applies to criminals.

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                          • dabeater85
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 53

                            All shops that are selling gonna need a vacation from the work this weekend.

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                            • wilderness medic
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 845

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                              • jarhead714
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 9032

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