Helo Hunting in Africa with a Barrett??

[Citadelgrad87]

Poacher= AKA A poor Native African who wants to hunt but he doesnt have the $5,000 for a helo ride.

Wrong. Natives understand the value of trophy hunting, amd they protect the herds.

Poachers will wipe out an entire herd for the one shot ivory or horn haul, for asian dick pills.

Next wildly incorrect assumption i can disabuse you of, please.

[Citadelgrad87]

Ya know, I never understood why people take pride in shooting an animal that's near point blank range.

I don't take videos of myself doing my day to day job...how is that Zebra hunt worth taking a video for?

Come on now. Show some skill or something. My 2 year old daughter could have made that shot.

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[Usmc0844spare]

Here are some trophy hunting facts:

74% of trophy hunters admit to cleaning their rifle barrels too much.
45% of hunters do not admit to that, but WOULD actually do so on a Tuesday.
Of those 2 groups 23% of them would not actually go to Africa to do that, but would perhaps go to Montana.
A study by UC Davis both refuted and supported this premise, whereas a competing study from Stanford indicated that bacon was a more likely correct outcome.

Which leads inescapably to the conclusion that no matter what you believe, if you are killing animals only for the thrill of killing something, you're a d**k.

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[Usmc0844spare]

No it was just a general comment.

However someone in your position can easily say "no I am not shooting animals for the thrill of it cuz they are paying me to do this for pest eradication" (at least I think that's what I read somewhere in this thread, sorry if I got it wrong) even if getting paid is just icing on the cake to getting to go on a kill crazy animal rampage.

Only YOU know in your heart of hearts where you lie on the bell curve, where one end is:

"I really wanna shoot anything and everything and I can rationalize to others that I am not a kill-crazy psycho by saying 'its just a job' "...
... and the other end is:
"I am truly a 'have gun will travel' professional guy and would be as happy getting paid to test rifles for CZ as to do this".

Honestly I have no judgement about where you actually fit on this continuum, and even if I did, I would never expect you to give a crap what I thought.

And you are wrong, it's actually 87% of all statistics are made up.

[lewdogg21]

Thats such bull****, someone paying $50k or so to bait a lion off a reserve so he can shoot it for a trophy benefits no one except the guys who took the 50large. Does not benefit the community at large. Also it leaves the pride open to hostile takeover a d means death for any cubs under a year.

In africa the notion that trophy hunting somehow protects or conserves the wildlife is a frikkin pipedream . All trophy hunting does is fuel greed in which any local will do whatever is needed to get the animal in a position to be shot ,for the money....same crap as a poacher looking to get xxx for the 'medicinal value' the body parts of xxx bring on the asian or black markets.

We have our differing views, i just hope if i ever find myself on an anti poaching patrol and come across either in an area neither are supposed to be in, same fate for both,whatever it may be.

I guess all the employment opportunities for the locals in those areas don't exist, huh? Housekeeping, cooks, trackers, skinners, camp staff, PH's and the corresponding goods/services that support that dont' exist?

As far as you on an anti-hunting patrol, well you would have to leave the safety of orange county there tough guy. I know the woods probably scares you a lot so you just stay at s-bux sipping your latte and playing keyboard warrior while your liberal friends fawn all over your machismo.

[lewdogg21]

Which leads inescapably to the conclusion that no matter what you believe, if you are killing animals only for the thrill of killing something, you're a d**k.

Ground squirrels are a riot to shoot. I guess that makes me a dick?

[Usmc0844spare]

See my subsequent post.

Same concept.

The main reason you are killing squirrels might be:
1) Because you somehow just enjoy killing **** for no good reason.
Or
2) You might also have some very good reason to be doing this (saving your tomato plants, disease control, etc) beyond just indulging in killing.

I would say the amount of a dick you are is directly proportional to how much reason 1 drives your squirrel slaughter activities.

To be clear, if I lived somewhere more in the country, there would be a pile of dead squirrels stacked up around my tomato and pumpkin plants. But if that pile where there because I had some weird fascination with watching squirrels explode into a pink mist, that would be a bit scary.

[Citadelgrad87]

Here are some trophy hunting facts:

74% of trophy hunters admit to cleaning their rifle barrels too much.
45% of hunters do not admit to that, but WOULD actually do so on a Tuesday.
Of those 2 groups 23% of them would not actually go to Africa to do that, but would perhaps go to Montana.
A study by UC Davis both refuted and supported this premise, whereas a competing study from Stanford indicated that bacon was a more likely correct outcome.

Which leads inescapably to the conclusion that no matter what you believe, if you are killing animals only for the thrill of killing something, you're a d**k.

[Usmc0844spare]

Well... I've never hunted but I have considered it. But too much of a PITA in this state.

If I've considered hunting, that must mean it appeals to me on some level. The appeal was (and is) inclusive of the following elements:
1) I geek out on planning and logistical type stuff. Where am I going? Will I camp? How will I manage both camping stuff and a carcass? What will weather be?
2) From the firearm perspective, I can geek out on stuff like "is my rifle sighted in?" What is the best bullet to use? Do I know all the ballistics, etc.
3) From the animal perspective, I get to learn to dress and gut something. Plus get all the cool toys for that.

Essentially what appealed to me about it would be the ability to prove to myself that I am not SO far removed from my caveman self that I can't put my own meat on my own table if push comes to shove. I don't deny that I am sure at the moment of pulling the trigger the adrenaline levels will be jacked.

So are my motives PURELY to have a slab of deer meat for dinner? No. I don't "need" the meat. Are they very "meat-centric" though? Yes.

But in the end, I end up hunting for the great Trader Joe's Organic Beef Patty with my CC.

[BigPimping]

I don't think that anything you do from a helicopter counts as hunting. I can see using helicopters to eradicate pigs and pests but that's definitely not hunting.

[lewdogg21]

Well... I've never hunted but I have considered it. But too much of a PITA in this state.

This is what drives us (hunters) nuts. When those who have never actually done something but have strong feelings against it based upon stereotypes and accompanying emotions. Replace hunting with guns and you can understand where I and thousands of other hunters here in CA are coming from.

It's not too much of a pita. Check out the hunting forum and use the search feature as it's been covered in detail in there on how to get started, etc. including a DFG how to sticky. Depending on where you live some game may be easier to chase than others.

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