oops, thanks for sharing op.
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Not my idea of 'hunting' rather be on the ground actually having to track find and take a clean shot...
Baiting,treeing,herding to a kill zone,all that crap should not be allowed..its not hunting.... if hunting it you better be eating it..
'Trophy hunting' and specially poaching ,are 2 things that really piss me off.
I DO commend you on your skill however.Originally posted by tony270It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.Originally posted by repubconservPrint it out and frame it for all I careOriginally posted by el chivoI don't need to think at all..XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOriginally posted by pjsigYou are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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Did Youtube pull the video? All I'm getting is a black screen with a gray exclamation point in a circle off to the left."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by tony270It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.Originally posted by repubconservPrint it out and frame it for all I careOriginally posted by el chivoI don't need to think at all..XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOriginally posted by pjsigYou are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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You don't have to go all the way to South Africa, you can just go to Texas. From Hot Shot Dustin's channel:
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Well said and completely accurate.
People often react far too emotionally to this type of hunting without having any comprehension of the facts and circumstances behind it.
Instead of being pissed off at trophy hunters, if you are a true conservationist. You should be grateful for them, just as the locals are. They are the main reason we have conservation in these areas.Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.Comment
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Now the link is working."Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
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"You’d be really happy then if I shared what I’ve been doing the past 4 years to curb poaching in Limpopo I don’t think you’d mind that it’s often done from the Helo either. That won’t be on YT unfortunately!"
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Thats such bull****, someone paying $50k or so to bait a lion off a reserve so he can shoot it for a trophy benefits no one except the guys who took the 50large. Does not benefit the community at large. Also it leaves the pride open to hostile takeover a d means death for any cubs under a year.Well said and completely accurate.
People often react far too emotionally to this type of hunting without having any comprehension of the facts and circumstances behind it.
Instead of being pissed off at trophy hunters, if you are a true conservationist. You should be grateful for them, just as the locals are. They are the main reason we have conservation in these areas.
In africa the notion that trophy hunting somehow protects or conserves the wildlife is a frikkin pipedream . All trophy hunting does is fuel greed in which any local will do whatever is needed to get the animal in a position to be shot ,for the money....same crap as a poacher looking to get xxx for the 'medicinal value' the body parts of xxx bring on the asian or black markets.
We have our differing views, i just hope if i ever find myself on an anti poaching patrol and come across either in an area neither are supposed to be in, same fate for both,whatever it may be.'There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.'
'I have so many good karma points I am approaching Saint Hood'
"They tell you of a laundry detergent that takes out bloodstains- I'm thinking that if you have clothes covered in bloodstains-maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem"
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I place poaching at the top, trophy behind it, one is done due to greed the other due to a need to brag about killing some animal usually with the 'hunter' having no skin in the game. You want to trophy hunt something,get a spear knife,etc and take the risk..if you beat it in the fight and live,you get the trophy..if not...cycle of life.
Regarding the eating bit...if you trophy hunted a lion leopard elephant,etc,would you eat it? Elephant,zebra,other prey a animal,probably....predator probably not and i doubt villagers would either. As you basically stated.
So what does one get from bragging about shooting an animal that one does not,potentially, get to keep any part of or any part of? Just the 'i killed an xxxx and it was cool??
Whats you opinion on the now legal killing of bears or wolves while in the den,hibernating or currently raising young?? To me its the ultimate chicken**** thing to do...'There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.'
'I have so many good karma points I am approaching Saint Hood'
"They tell you of a laundry detergent that takes out bloodstains- I'm thinking that if you have clothes covered in bloodstains-maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem"
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Wow. You know so little, yet are so emotionally entrenched in your ignorance.Thats such bull****, someone paying $50k or so to bait a lion off a reserve so he can shoot it for a trophy benefits no one except the guys who took the 50large. Does not benefit the community at large. Also it leaves the pride open to hostile takeover a d means death for any cubs under a year.
In africa the notion that trophy hunting somehow protects or conserves the wildlife is a frikkin pipedream . All trophy hunting does is fuel greed in which any local will do whatever is needed to get the animal in a position to be shot ,for the money....same crap as a poacher looking to get xxx for the 'medicinal value' the body parts of xxx bring on the asian or black markets.
I've never hunted in Africa with anything more than a camera. But even I know how much the animals and tribes benefit from hunters. Without their money, conservation, and propagation of species efforts, there would likely be a tiny fraction of the animals around today. And the economies would be more of a wreck than they already are. Heck, where do you think most of the money comes from to pursue and prosecute poachers?"Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill
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It's dead; what in the hell difference does it make whether you eat it or use its skull as a hood-ornament on a custom Cadillac.Not my idea of 'hunting' rather be on the ground actually having to track find and take a clean shot...
Baiting,treeing,herding to a kill zone,all that crap should not be allowed..its not hunting.... if hunting it you better be eating it..
'Trophy hunting' and specially poaching ,are 2 things that really piss me off.
Come to think of it, the cannibalism component of eating what you kill is just as bizarre as stuffing the hide to put the remains on display or wearing the hide as a fur stole or coat.
What's the difference between either? It's dead; it cares not what you do with its parts, and the parts don't really know what is going on with them.
Whether you eat it and crap it out down your 4" main-line, or rack it up on the wall for all to see, dead is dead.
If the animal were taken legally, and usually because a tag was issued for a reason to take such an animal, what damned difference does it make?
So this whole "eat what you kill bullcrap" is exactly that when you see metrosexual midget-minded jackasses "hunting" for cellophane sealed steaks only to take it home, cook it up, not eat half of it and then throw half of it away because "they're full".
However, they go on to bully-pulpit and pontificate about how "I only agree with hunting if you eat everything you kill" taken from a time when some BS "Native American" pseudo-credo chant ran through the course of the anti-hunting sots back in the 1980s with hopes to squash hunting altogether, and typically gun ownership for that purpose too.
Yet these goobers haven't ever hunted anything in their life, save for a lost Post-It note somewhere in their cubicle from a meeting a week prior, or tracking of the baby-sitter's tampon under the car-seat they were sucking on from the night before so their dominatrix/feminist wifey doesn't find it.
"Trophy" hunting is no more or less unethical than eating an animal's innards and tossing the skins and certain guts in the trash. That animal, any animal is dead. Whether you eat it or wear its head as a hat, you are still throwing some number of parts away.
Regardless, "trophy hunting" and the related fees and controlled aspects do a whole lot more to bring awareness to conservation, advancing the species in question, and funds to support each than merely hunting white-tail in PA.
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Just proud to continue to put that ignorance out there aren't you?Thats such bull****, someone paying $50k or so to bait a lion off a reserve so he can shoot it for a trophy benefits no one except the guys who took the 50large. Does not benefit the community at large. Also it leaves the pride open to hostile takeover a d means death for any cubs under a year.
In africa the notion that trophy hunting somehow protects or conserves the wildlife is a frikkin pipedream . All trophy hunting does is fuel greed in which any local will do whatever is needed to get the animal in a position to be shot ,for the money....same crap as a poacher looking to get xxx for the 'medicinal value' the body parts of xxx bring on the asian or black markets.
Baked, and done.
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