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  • riderr
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2013
    • 6632

    Originally posted by God Bless America
    He was backing up to buy Drejka a cold beer in apology. Prove me wrong.
    He moved away from the store entrance. Thus, he wasn't going to the store.

    Nailed...

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    • kennyd1gital
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 27

      Originally posted by Ivan275
      The reason he was taking a step back was because he wanted some room to do a running kick. Prove me wrong.
      Watch the video again and pay attention to McGlockton's body language as the firearm is drawn. He takes a step back and moves his hands forward, showing his palms. That's not an aggressive stance, nor is it one you would take in preparation for a running kick. That was a, "oh ****, this just got real!" stance.

      Originally posted by UberPatriot
      Bad shoot in my opinion.
      There wasn't an ongoing attack, drawing the gun probably would have been enough.
      Agreed. There needs to be an escalation of force. Both parties screwed up. McGlockton should not have responded to a verbal threat with physical force, and Drejka should not have used deadly force, when drawing the firearm was enough to stop the threat. There was a solid two seconds between the draw and the shot; Drejka had time to recognize the shift in McGlockton's demeanor. At that point, the threat was stopped, therefore any further escalation of force is unjustified.
      "A firearm is like a parachute; if you need it, but don't have it, you'll likely never need it again."

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      • BTFlyer
        Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 233

        McGlockton was a real tough guy in front of his woman and kids there for a second... a real hero smacking down somebody smaller than him over a verbal altercation...

        Now his wife is a widow and his kids are fatherless....what a nice life of poverty and welfare they have to look forward to

        Play stupid games win stupid prizes...people who don't know how to solve problems without getting violent have no sympathy from me

        Good shoot
        Last edited by BTFlyer; 07-25-2018, 8:56 AM. Reason: Mixed up the names

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        • ja308
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2009
          • 12660

          Originally posted by BTFlyer
          Drejka was a real tough guy in front of his woman and kids there for a second... a real hero smacking down somebody smaller than him over a verbal altercation...

          Now his wife is a widow and his kids are fatherless....what a nice life of poverty and welfare they have to look forward to

          Play stupid games win stupid prizes...people who don't know how to solve problems without getting violent have no sympathy from me

          Good shoot
          I agree but Drejka was the armed victim who shot in self defense Markeis McGlockton ((thug)
          As a side I heard his
          Girlfriend ( thug) telling the news" I can park anywhere I want"

          Too bad this pair of anti social probable parisites had reproduced where they will pass on more antisocial behavior!
          Although it is possibile the 5 year old who saw the humiliating sight of tough guy Dad expiring with a glassy stare might just convince this innocent child to take a more balanced approach to problem solving!
          Last edited by ja308; 07-25-2018, 8:58 AM.

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          • RobinGoodfellow
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 837

            Being Embarrassed?

            Originally posted by God Bless America
            Maybe he was upset that some loudmouth was harassing his girlfriend. It is not "showing off" to shut the guy up. It's shutting up some loudmouth who is harassing your girlfriend.

            No he should not have pushed him, but being embarrassed is not a shooting offense.
            Being embarrassed is not a shooting offense ... but physical assault may be.

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            • RobinGoodfellow
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 837

              Stand Your Ground

              Originally posted by heidad01
              Good shoot.

              Do not do anything illegal. If confronted for the illegal act you did, just apologize and go about your business.

              Pushing older people down to the ground ain't cool at all. Luckily, they have the stand your ground law. That in short means do not "F" with people and do not push people around because you think you can. It is a good law.

              The person who was shot would not have been so brave and aggressive if the shooter was the size of a defensive back.
              This is not a "stand your ground" case. The guys was on the ground with his assailant standing over him; he couldn't retreat.

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              • riderr
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2013
                • 6632

                Originally posted by kennyd1gital
                There was a solid two seconds between the draw and the shot; Drejka had time to recognize the shift in McGlockton's demeanor. At that point, the threat was stopped, therefore any further escalation of force is unjustified.
                I doubt you'd be able to come to the same conclusion after being viciously attacked and knocked down.

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                • kennyd1gital
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 27

                  Originally posted by riderr
                  I doubt you'd be able to come to the same conclusion after being viciously attacked and knocked down.
                  I wouldn't have gotten myself into this situation in the first place, because I don't start altercations over petty, stupid things.

                  Also, I likely wouldn't have been knocked to the ground in this situation, because I have better situational awareness than that. I'd also be willing to bet I've got a lot more training and discipline than Drejka.

                  That having been said, I do understand that given the circumstances, he may have been dazed and his reaction time slowed and/or it may have been difficult to make timely decisions. However, that doesn't change the fact that the threat ceased when the firearm was drawn.
                  "A firearm is like a parachute; if you need it, but don't have it, you'll likely never need it again."

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                  • ja308
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12660

                    McGlockton’s criminal record includes drug charges, petit theft, and an aggravated battery arrest that all happened before 2011.

                    A deadly dispute over a parking spot in Clearwater has grabbed national headlines and sparked backlash about the "Stand Your Ground" law in the Sunshine State.


                    This is a near perfect example pf big media getting the facts wrong.
                    For the record it was NOT STAND Your GROUND, IT WAS A SELF DEFENSE CASE !

                    What is wrong with these people !

                    Hopefully this is a learning event for those who have adopted the life choices made by McGlocton. Yeah just because you are younger ,bigger and stronger does not mean you can attack someone.

                    A BIG ^5 to the sheriff who is not bowing to the racist mob demanding charges against the shooter.

                    Maybe its time armed people start addressing addressing people who violate society's code of conduct ? Especially in free states where self defense is allowed.
                    Last edited by ja308; 07-26-2018, 7:52 AM.

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                    • IVC
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 17594

                      Originally posted by kennyd1gital
                      However, that doesn't change the fact that the threat ceased when the firearm was drawn.
                      That's the question in this altercation, not a fact.

                      If the threat ceased, the way you claim, Drejka will be charged with murder/manslaughter. If the threat was still there, he won't. We will all find out soon.
                      sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                      • riderr
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 6632

                        Originally posted by kennyd1gital
                        I wouldn't have gotten myself into this situation in the first place, because I don't start altercations over petty, stupid things.

                        Also, I likely wouldn't have been knocked to the ground in this situation, because I have better situational awareness than that. I'd also be willing to bet I've got a lot more training and discipline than Drejka.
                        You are Bruce Lee, right? Or probably Rambo...

                        You never know what can provoke a physical aggression in the street. So, never say never. Learn from others' mistakes

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                        • kennyd1gital
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 27

                          Originally posted by IVC
                          That's the question in this altercation, not a fact.

                          If the threat ceased, the way you claim, Drejka will be charged with murder/manslaughter. If the threat was still there, he won't. We will all find out soon.
                          If you pay attention to McGlockton's body language in the video when the firearm is drawn, he shifts from aggressor to defender at that point. That's my opinion. Will we find out? As I understand it, the sheriff isn't charging Drejka with anything. Unless you're referring to the potential (likely) civil case?

                          And don't get me wrong, I'm not in support of McGlockton's actions by any means. He's a scumbag. However, Drejka isn't perfectly innocent in this either.

                          Originally posted by riderr
                          You are Bruce Lee, right? Or probably Rambo...

                          You never know what can provoke a physical aggression in the street. So, never say never. Learn from others' mistakes
                          Hell no! I'm stronger and faster than both of those losers combined!

                          Yes, we need to learn from others' mistakes, which is why there is something for us all to learn from this. Was the shooting justified? Yeah, I think so. Was it sloppy as hell? In my opinion, definitely. Was the entire thing completely avoidable? Absolutely.
                          "A firearm is like a parachute; if you need it, but don't have it, you'll likely never need it again."

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                          • ja308
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12660

                            Originally posted by kennyd1gital
                            If you pay attention to McGlockton's body language in the video when the firearm is drawn, he shifts from aggressor to defender at that point. That's my opinion. Will we find out? As I understand it, the sheriff isn't charging Drejka with anything. Unless you're referring to the potential (likely) civil case?

                            And don't get me wrong, I'm not in support of McGlockton's actions by any means. He's a scumbag. However, Drejka isn't perfectly innocent in this either.



                            Hell no! I'm stronger and faster than both of those losers combined!

                            Yes, we need to learn from others' mistakes, which is why there is something for us all to learn from this. Was the shooting justified? Yeah, I think so. Was it sloppy as hell? In my opinion, definitely. Was the entire thing completely avoidable? Absolutely.
                            Not to be argumentative but it would seem Drejka is just the kind of person society needs !

                            Take for example the morons in society who carve up private property gas pumps, mirrors,toilet seats etc. Every instance of this behavior is raising the price of items we use, gas,grocerys etc. Our city council has allocated an entire crew to remove spray paint.

                            These lowlife democrat fools would not engage in that behavior if there were more Drejka types letting them know the behavior is not acceptable.

                            It would seem this Drejka person was very well trained! To deliver a 1 round stop from a sitting position under threat of grave bodily injury is something all victims should appreciate.
                            Personally I would be interested in what caliber and bullet was used to stop this thug so quickly.
                            Last edited by ja308; 07-26-2018, 9:42 AM.

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                            • kennyd1gital
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 27

                              Originally posted by ja308
                              Not to be argumentative but it would seem Drejka is just the kind of person society needs!
                              Society indeed does need far more armed citizens, but at the same time, the armed citizens need more training.
                              "A firearm is like a parachute; if you need it, but don't have it, you'll likely never need it again."

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                              • superdave50
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 813

                                Originally posted by ja308
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                                These lowlife democrat fools would not engage in that behavior if there were more Drejka types letting them know the behavior is not acceptable.
                                we have those people, they're called parents!


                                well, you know, in theory....

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