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  • stevemac
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 504

    Grant Cardone Points Gun at Camera. Ethical?

    Motivational speaker & car sales trainer Grant Cardone posted a pic on social media of him pointing his pistol at the camera with his finger on the trigger. His caption says he loves the 2A. Someone commented that safe handling is also a hallmark of the 2A and I added to always treat it as if it's loaded and to never point it at something you don't want to kill.

    The question is, is it ethical to take and post pictures pointing a gun at the camera with your finger on the trigger?

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    decepticon6551
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2011
    • 1484



    You're asking if it's ethical to point your gun at a camera, as opposed to a TV or toaster?

    If he was pointing it at a puppy, or that goofy lookin chick in the background, that would be unethical.
    Personal electronics, and major appliances - ethical.

    Originally posted by Paul_R
    A week ago Congress was asking Tide to change their pod designs so teenagers would stop eating them.

    Now this week the media thinks teenagers should determine gun control laws.

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    • #3
      tradecraft
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 4630

      Camera slept with his wife.
      Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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      • #4
        MrBlazito
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1005

        What the hell is going on with the guide rod in that gun?

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        • #5
          003
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 3436

          A very poor example of safe gun handling. This is exactly the kind of thing the anti-2nd amendment crowd will exploit.

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          • #6
            decepticon6551
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Apr 2011
            • 1484

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            Originally posted by MrBlazito
            What the hell is going on with the guide rod in that gun?
            I noticed that too.
            Spare parts are to be expected when you're working on your car, not when you're cleaning your guns.

            Originally posted by Paul_R
            A week ago Congress was asking Tide to change their pod designs so teenagers would stop eating them.

            Now this week the media thinks teenagers should determine gun control laws.

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            • #7
              stevemac
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 504

              Originally posted by 003
              A very poor example of safe gun handling. This is exactly the kind of thing the anti-2nd amendment crowd will exploit.
              Yeah, this is what I'm getting at.

              If you are a pro 2A advocate, would these actions contradict your advocacy efforts?

              Most of the firearm advertising I have seen implement safe handling in the photography where the trigger finger is straight and clearly outside of the trigger guard. I'm assuming they do this to prevent accusations of promoting violence and to emphasize safety.

              Grant Cardone has over 244k followers on his Instagram channel and it is possible that this pic and others like it could be offensive and perhaps even threatening to non-shooters. And since he is semi-high profile it can be used against an advocate (NRA, etc) arguing that the shooting community emphasizes a culture of safe handling, etc.

              In my opinion it is not ethical. Wondering what others thought about it.

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              • #8
                DRM6000
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2006
                • 5883

                Originally posted by MrBlazito
                What the hell is going on with the guide rod in that gun?
                Looks like a Glock 35. That guide rod is normal.

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                • #9
                  TKM
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 10657

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                  • #10
                    L84CABO
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 8719

                    You're going to have to help me understand how this is even remotely unethical? And how is this any different than what Hollywood does with guns? The only problem I see here is if there is actually a live person behind the camera or he didn't clear the weapon. And since we don't know, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt an assume he's being safe. Heck, for all we know he was in the middle of dry fire practice and decided to snap a photo of it and post it. Moreover, I'm done caring what the damn anti 2A crowd thinks. There's no reasoning with those idiots and they're going to wet themselves at the mere sight of a weapon anyway. Personally I think we should ram our great big beautiful, legal, AMERICAN, Constitutionally protected gun hobby down their throats until they choke on it.
                    "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

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                    • #11
                      XDJYo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 6943

                      Appears to be in a hotel ballroom? Then, maybe an unsafe direction.
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                      • #12
                        csshih
                        Casual Plinker
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 670

                        Originally posted by DRM6000
                        Looks like a Glock 35. That guide rod is normal.
                        34 or 35, yup. My gen 4 looks like that.

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                        • #13
                          dieselpower
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11471



                          so is a picture of a gun pointing at the camera just as bad or is it only when you are watching it happen?
                          Last edited by dieselpower; 02-15-2017, 6:51 AM.

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                          • #14
                            highpower
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2012
                            • 5303

                            Net nanny over thinking. It's a camera, not a person. Get over yourself.
                            MLC member.

                            Biden, proof that stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

                            Dumocraps suck balls.

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                            • #15
                              dwalker
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 2714

                              Originally posted by L84CABO
                              You're going to have to help me understand how this is even remotely unethical? And how is this any different than what Hollywood does with guns? The only problem I see here is if there is actually a live person behind the camera or he didn't clear the weapon. And since we don't know, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt an assume he's being safe. Heck, for all we know he was in the middle of dry fire practice and decided to snap a photo of it and post it. Moreover, I'm done caring what the damn anti 2A crowd thinks. There's no reasoning with those idiots and they're going to wet themselves at the mere sight of a weapon anyway. Personally I think we should ram our great big beautiful, legal, AMERICAN, Constitutionally protected gun hobby down their throats until they choke on it.

                              Agreed on every point.
                              Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

                              Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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