.223 rem vs 45 auto

[m98]

Muhahahaha....Get a clue. What are you talking about?! Do you know everything about ballistics?

X2......LOL

[technique]

I keep my AR pistol by my bed no matter how hard people laugh. Even if it lacks velocity. And if I miss..Who cares..The flame it burps may char broil my attackers face.

[damndave]

all the specifics dont matter. if your a good shot, it doesnt matter what your shooting. a 22 can kill someone just as easy for a good shooter

[rumble phish]

Muhahahaha....Get a clue. What are you talking about?! Do you know anything about ballistics?

Admittedly, no. Not as much as I would like. But I'm getting some good points here.

I understand that a rifle is going to have more velocity than a hand gun fro any given caliber. I guess I'm always thinking of things, as far as real life situations, from a handgun point of view. I'd more likely have my .45 on me than my AR. But I see that that is not to say that a smaller caliber in a rifle wouldn't be more effective. It's not like I'm going to stop keeping my 1911 in my nightstand or replace the Mossberg under my bed with my AR. But I suppose you're right, in a Katrina type situation I'd probably prefer my AR (and .45 and shotgun )

[dgey]

223 to much more powerful everyday, anyday. Your handgun is there to fight your way back to your long gun... If you have a choice, bring the rifle... and watch your enemy's disapprear.

[tiko]

I will definitely take my 1911s...because I do not have any rifle...YET

[devildog999]

Sorry for wasting your time, but if you don't care don't answer the question.

Don't be a dick, was just joking

But for the sake of seriousness, I think the .45 would have more stopping power at 25 yards. It is meant more for close quarters as compared to .223 IMHO

[dwa]

Admittedly, no. Not as much as I would like. But I'm getting some good points here.

I understand that a rifle is going to have more velocity than a hand gun fro any given caliber. I guess I'm always thinking of things, as far as real life situations, from a handgun point of view. I'd more likely have my .45 on me than my AR. But I see that that is not to say that a smaller caliber in a rifle wouldn't be more effective. It's not like I'm going to stop keeping my 1911 in my nightstand or replace the Mossberg under my bed with my AR. But I suppose you're right, in a Katrina type situation I'd probably prefer my AR (and .45 and shotgun )

basically there is no such thing as "stopping power" i don't think there's a round in existence that will knock you back, tear you apart yes knock you back no. in regards to lethality there are several factors to look at which is probably what you ment by raw knock down stopping power, wound channel permanent wound cavity and fragmentation if applicable. loss of life is most often the result of loss of blood caused by the previous not being knocked around. a hand gun is a handgun it is not and will never be a primary weapon, that's what a long gun is for, think of a pistol as a knife and a long gun as a sword.

[drummerdude1188]

This thread is so full of Fail its not even funny actually is funny

[AlexBreya]

Am I the only one sticking to the original parameters here?

He asked "Which has more stopping power at 25 yards or less, 10 rounds max"

<25 yards I still vote for the .45ACP


I'll put it this way... which would knock you down harder? Getting hit with a tablespoon at 100mph or an 8lb sledgehammer at 60mph?

STOPPING POWER. not wound channel. Pure, unadulterated knock down force.


.45ACP



if I'm wrong I'll take my chances.....

Here, i'll give you a more to scale redo of what you're trying to say:

Would you rather get hit with a spoon going 300 mph
or 4 spoons going 100 mph?

[Shotgun Man]

Hate to just pile on, but at 25 yards, the rifle would be sweet for delivering headshots that would be missed with a handgun.

[OutlawDon]

Also, the 223 has something the 45 won't have....

Two words....hydrostatic shock.

[Jonathan Doe]

Either 223 or 45, just hit the target and see what happens. Either one will stop the threat.

[Bongos]

how about a 45acp rifle, lot of thump in 100 yds or less

[live2offroad]

This is a goofy question (I'd take the .223 at 25 yards..)

It's goofy because 25 yards is outside the effective range of a .45 cal. Oh, you can hit targets accurately out there with one, but that's not really what that firearm or caliber was designed for..

In my humble opinion a Pistol = close quarter (0 to 30 ft, or across the average room). So if you are shooting at something out a 25 yards with a pistol that's the wrong tool for the application.

-Peter