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  • #31
    dwinters14
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 729

    Originally posted by ojisan
    If your back seat can be pulled down and the gun reached from inside the car, the trunk does not qualify as a "locked container".
    All sedans have collapsable back seats. They are locked when the upright position. An SUV or pick-up have hatches that are open which aren't considered locked.
    My rights aren't yours to vote away.

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    • #32
      maggie06
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 658

      Originally posted by REDdawn6
      Does a speedvault count as ammo in separate container ?
      Not this again[emoji22]

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      "Let's play tic-tac-toe"

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      • #33
        Dago Red
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 586

        I would never recommend keeping a piece on your seat unless you're rolling in hot. For it to be any use to you in a hurry it would have to be loaded already. If you do that you're breaking the law, in which case you might as well break it by having a concealable handgun. And if you did get pulled over there's no way in a hurry that you're hiding it and when the LEO sees it you may not even get a chance to explain your bad decision because seeing the rifle on your seat a jumpy guy might just shoot first ask questions later.

        I know a couple people that carry handguns without a ccw Figuring the risk is ok for the ability to have it ready. I had an ex girlfriend that saved herself from a car jacking in Palo Alto with hers

        Red

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        • #34
          stix213
          AKA: Joe Censored
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2009
          • 18998

          I generally have a pistol in the car, but it comes in and out of the car, which is why it isn't bigger.

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          • #35
            MrOrange
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 2262

            I'm thinking a Redi-Magged featureless carried audiophil2 style (minus the slung mags) in a soft case would be your best bet for rapid legal access, although depending on the case you may generate some police attention. And remember, if it's not an obvious gun case, it has to be locked jes like a pistola.


            Originally posted by dwinters14
            All sedans have collapsable back seats. They are locked when the upright position. An SUV or pick-up have hatches that are open which aren't considered locked.
            Not on my planet, they don't.


            Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
            I read on the Internet that carrying a rifle in the car was a bad idea, so I only carry one when I ride my bike.

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            When I drive my truck I just carry my CCW handgun.
            Step up your game!

            I meant, it is my opinion that...






            I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
            I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
            You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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            • #36
              bk23103
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 1088

              This kid leaving his rifle in the front seat and rolling around town is going to cause even more legislation in the future.

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              • #37
                myk
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2012
                • 5955

                I used to car/trunk carry but what's the point? By the time I get everything unlocked, cocked and locked the situation/my life will already be over...


                I don't always save the world, but when I do, it's in 24 hours or less...

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                • #38
                  xxINKxx
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 4289

                  Don't ask don't tell. Don't give a cop a reason to pull you over.

                  What people don't know won't hurt.
                  "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #39
                    Dodahdude
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1238

                    I carry, open.. concealed! Also I keep a loaded firearm in my vehicles as well! But I must say.... I like that tractor idea!
                    sigpic One down, four up!

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                    • #40
                      Eat Dirt
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 9566

                      Maybe ...............................
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                      I miss the Good 'ol days of Cal -Guns

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                      • #41
                        baggss
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3439

                        Originally posted by Lonestargrizzly
                        I car carry my beretta when i happen to be in my car.
                        Ha! Same here!

                        Originally posted by xxINKxx
                        Don't ask don't tell. Don't give a cop a reason to pull you over.

                        What people don't know won't hurt.
                        Why should I be concerned if I am doing nothing wrong and carrying in a legal manner? In my case I have a CCW so it's not a real huge concern, but hiding a perfectly legal activity in the dark just because you are afraid of what others might think is plain silly and it's exactly how we end up in the positions like the one we are in in this state. Responsible law abiding gun owners need to stand up for themselves.

                        Now if the first sentence of the above paragraph does't apply to you, then disregard everything after it.

                        NRA Lifetime Member : CalGuns Lifetime Member : GOA Lifetime Member

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                        • #42
                          ojisan
                          Agent 86
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11763

                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          Some people think so.

                          But that is not quite what the PC says for handguns: A trunk is an acceptable substitute for a 'locked container'.

                          I don't see anything that talks about long guns and trunks in CA law.
                          OK.
                          However, we have to consider that we lowly citizens are governed by both State and Federal law.
                          All guns have to be locked up in a GFSZ. (Fed)
                          RAWs have to transported in a locked container at all times. (CA)

                          The trunk, assuming it qualifies as a locking design, is a poor choice for gun transport.
                          Get a flat tire on the road and you will probably have to open your trunk, which means your locking container is no longer closed or locked.
                          This may not be legal depending on where you are.

                          I understand that the laws are specific and have some variables.
                          Going into the variables may not be the best thing for newbs who have no understanding of the complexities of the various laws.
                          It's better IMHO to give them guidelines that will work every time.

                          I know some will say, "I'll beat that in court because I was legal at that time and the cop was not familiar with the laws".
                          Great and more power to you.

                          However, there is a cop saying that "You might beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride".
                          They know that hauling you in (the ride) will be a giant hassle for you and mean nothing to them.
                          The ride will include:
                          - Arrest and usually a night or more in jail.
                          - Confiscation of your gun(s) and ammo
                          - A first court appearance.
                          - Possible bail money posted
                          - An attorney will be needed, better to pay for a good one than a free Public Defender.
                          - A second / third / fourth / etc court appearance, with days off from work to go to court.
                          - Assuming you are cleared, then you have to go through the LEGR process to get your gun(s) back (many don't seem to get their ammo back).
                          - Have fun paying your attorney out of your own pocket.
                          - Then try to clear the arrest from your record (hahaha that's not going to happen).

                          While you may beat the rap, I much prefer to beat the ride in the first place.
                          Yes, that means I transport in a legal manner, actually I go beyond the laws' requirements, with as little "gray area" for a cop to consider as possible.

                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                          • #43
                            artb
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1552

                            I bought this in car holder but adapted it to attach my milsurp electronics pouch which will hold any of my 3 carry handguns and my cell phone or anything else I might want to access quickly while driving.
                            It is an excellent answer to storing a firearm at the ready in your car while driving -- as long as you have a CCW permit.

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                            • #44
                              ja308
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12660

                              Carrying a concealed weapon w/o a permit is considered a misdeamor,if the gun is registered to you! Its a flat out felony to carry if the gun is not registered.

                              BTW just because you bought the gun retail and assume its registered,its possibile DOJ didnt log it in as they have an error rate IIRC of 23%. In that case expect felony charges! Keeping paperwork should suffice to prove it should have been registered.

                              While the democrat party of california considers you unworthy of self defense. Its scenarios like this that could make facing gun charges a worthwhile risk?
                              Three relatives of the San Bernardino terrorists who killed 14 in December were arrested Thursday on federal conspiracy, marriage fraud and false statement charges, the FBI announced.


                              "Federal court documents obtained by FoxNews.com tied to Marquez’s case show both he and Farook abruptly halted plans for a dual terror attack in 2012. In that assault, Marquez and Farook allegedly planned to use pipe bombs and two AR-15 rifles “to maximize the number of casualties” at Riverside City College, a nearby institution they attended, and on state Route 91, a busy freeway with few exits where motorists are frequently stuck in heavy gridlock."

                              One can only imagine the horror of being gridlocked and having these armed killers approaching your vehicle,especially when your loved ones are with you!
                              Then again,these murderous scumbags have lots of targets and a limited supply of ammo,so each person shot,increases the odds of surviving !
                              Reassuring, isnt it!
                              As for the question. I carry only where the state govt considers me a trustworthy friend, worthy of self defense. Yeah its a REPUBLICAN state that issued me a CCW.
                              Last edited by ja308; 08-22-2016, 10:54 AM.

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                              • #45
                                pepsi2451
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 1629

                                Originally posted by baggss
                                Why should I be concerned if I am doing nothing wrong and carrying in a legal manner? In my case I have a CCW so it's not a real huge concern, but hiding a perfectly legal activity in the dark just because you are afraid of what others might think is plain silly and it's exactly how we end up in the positions like the one we are in in this state. Responsible law abiding gun owners need to stand up for themselves.

                                Now if the first sentence of the above paragraph does't apply to you, then disregard everything after it.
                                There was a thread on here a couple years ago where a cop said he has and would continue to "felony stop" people and force them from their cars at gun point for nothing more than a report someone saw a gun in their vehicle.

                                The consensus among calguns LE seemed to be that it was suspicious and that counted as reasonable suspicion a crime had been committed. This was before long gun open carry was banned (not that it matters since that ban doesn't apply to vehicles) and they were stopping people for suspicion of long guns being in the vehicle (he said one time it turned out to be a camera tripod in a guys back seat).

                                These are supposedly "pro gun" cops that hang out on calguns who feel this way.

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