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  • #46
    Teachu2
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 835

    Originally posted by Fjold
    You must have lived without TV or news for your entire life if you didn't know that cops have explosives. Every big city has a bomb squad with explosives.
    And the small departments know who to call....

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    • #47
      thetaxman
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 885

      Originally posted by God Bless America
      While you're at it, ask yourself, did the robot first say "candygram for Mongo!" or did it have a small gift from Acme that made a ticking sound?
      Texan Robot. It said "Howdy Mother****er" and then blew him up.
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      • #48
        pacrat
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2014
        • 10283

        OP, get a grip on reality and please drop the "militarization of police" mantra.

        It is a fabrication devised and promoted by Bias Stream Media. [more below on that]

        Any real concerns over a shifting role of OUR police. Should be for "Us v Them". Where police become less protectors of citizens, and more protectors of political agendas. This is a gun, and gun rights forum. LibTurd politicos and their lap dog Bias Stream Media promote "Us v Them" because they must have OUR police in their camp, before they can make "Gun Control" work at an enforcement level.


        Originally posted by Sarde
        Thats informative guys, thanks for the education. The news article I read was ambiguous and made it sound like the police merely used a bomb to end the situation.
        Sarde, the Bias Stream Media is often "intentionally ambiguous". Then they can stray from actually reporting facts as known. And interject their own biases and agendas into their own so called journalism. And claim "absence of malice".

        They created the militarization falacy to foment divisiveness between police and citizens. Just as they do with many volatile subjects. The more divisiveness, unrest, and violence, they can create. The more TV face time and sound bytes they use to cover their creations.

        As to DPD having a "bomb" or HE device and using it to take out a dangerous mass murderer, without further loss of life. Other than his.

        GOOD ON THEM For tackling a dangerous task and flushing a murderous turd into the septic tank of hell in an expedicious manner.

        Would they have used the same tactic, if the turd was targeting black citizens, or asian citizens, or latinos, or any other than White Cops, in his mass murder scenario?

        IMHO, Yes, I believe they would.

        Vilify the turd, not the brave cops that stopped him.

        Pres O-hole wasted no time vilifying the weapon the turd used. Don't vilify the weapon the cops used to stop the turd.

        Applause for the fine officers of DPD. And condolences for the lives lost.

        JM2c

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        • #49
          L84CABO
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2009
          • 8692

          Originally posted by Mentiroso
          Since when do COPS HAVE BOMBS? Explain to me why law enforcement officers amongst their arsenal need to have bombs? How much more militarization of police will we tolerate? I am outraged. Police have the numbers, armored vehicles, and time. Why did they employ a bomb to kill the cornered sniper? Also, why is there a rush to end a situation when time is generally in police favor?

          I argue the militarization of law enforcement is violation of our second amendment right. How can we have "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms..." if we are out gunned all the time. The 2ND amendment allows us a tool to keep a free state.
          Lighten up Francis! Next you'll be saying, "why couldn't the police shoot him in the leg and give him a puppy."

          Yea, it's that dumb!

          "Time?" Why didn't the police wait him out? Are you freaking serious? The guy was actively firing on the police. Just how long are they supposed to be taking rounds before you give your blessing to do something? And where exactly do you think those rounds are going? They could easily go into neighboring buildings where maybe somebody is working late or cleaning an office...or any of a dozen other scenarios, including killing an officer.

          Police have had explosives for years...decades even, to blow locks and doors and whatever. Is there some rampant misuse of explosives by police going on that I've missed in the media? No? Then chill out! Wait until there's something real to complain about.

          And what the ever loving hell is the difference anyway between the police using a sniper to take the guy out or a robot and explosives? If you had read that the police fought it out with the guy and he was killed by police gunfire or a sniper, you wouldn't have given it a second thought.
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          • #50
            dobek
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 651

            Those Damn Cops --- Why couldn't they shoot the gun out of his hands?



            Steve

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            • #51
              j-shot
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 1646

              Originally posted by Mentiroso
              Since when do COPS HAVE BOMBS? Explain to me why law enforcement officers amongst their arsenal need to have bombs? How much more militarization of police will we tolerate? I am outraged. Police have the numbers, armored vehicles, and time. Why did they employ a bomb to kill the cornered sniper? Also, why is there a rush to end a situation when time is generally in police favor?

              I argue the militarization of law enforcement is violation of our second amendment right. How can we have "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms..." if we are out gunned all the time. The 2ND amendment allows us a tool to keep a free state.
              There's no such thing as "militarization of police".

              This is a mainstream media created phrase to dramatize reality.

              Tell me you want law enforcement limited on the equipment they need if they ever come to help you. Go ahead.

              As for a "bomb" I am guessing they improvised a flash bang to their cop-bot (patent pending ) drove it up to the idiot and boom.
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              • #52
                NYT
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2011
                • 3811

                Originally posted by dobek
                Those Damn Cops --- Why couldn't they shoot the gun out of his hands?



                Steve
                i blame the training and not enough range time.

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                • #53
                  RandyD
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 6673

                  I was surprised to hear the Dallas Chief of Police announce that they took out one of the shooters with a bomb. I can think of a number of scenarios where using explosives is appropriate, but I don't know the circumstances of this specific application, and I would like to know more about this situation. In general, I do not want to see police using explosives on humans.
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                  • #54
                    God Bless America
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2014
                    • 5163

                    Originally posted by j-shot
                    There's no such thing as "militarization of police"
                    Oh yes there is. MRAPS, ninja-pajama SWAT teams, referring to non-LEO as "civilians," etc.

                    Tell me you want law enforcement limited on the equipment they need if they ever come to help you. Go ahead.
                    That is a useless argument. I always want exceptional treatment for my own self-interest just like everybody else wants for theirs.

                    What I would really like is for cops to go after our killers, like they go after their own.

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                    • #55
                      Doheny
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 13820

                      Originally posted by God Bless America
                      Oh yes there is. MRAPS, ninja-pajama SWAT teams, referring to non-LEO as "civilians," etc.



                      That is a useless argument. I always want exceptional treatment for my own self-interest just like everybody else wants for theirs.

                      What I would really like is for cops to go after our killers, like they go after their own.
                      It's silly to think that the end result would have been any different if the shooter was shooting marchers rather than cops.

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                      Last edited by Doheny; 07-08-2016, 3:27 PM.
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                      • #56
                        NYT
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3811

                        Originally posted by God Bless America
                        What I would really like is for cops to go after our killers, like they go after their own.
                        i agree, though i think a cop killer is punished far more severely by the courts than a killer of civilians.

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                        • #57
                          OHOD
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                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11047

                          Interesting thread. I never realized that PD had bomb stuff.
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                          • #58
                            roostersgt
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1921

                            They were completely justified in using deadly force against the man, who had already shot/killed people, and made his intention to continue killing more well known. He needed to be stopped from doing that which he was fully capable of immediately doing. The cops who had him "cornered", were still in immediate danger and took their actions as a last resort. Waiting him out did not appear to be an option, as he could have attacked them at any moment, causing possibly more loss of life / great bodily injury. His actions and words caused this to happenThe only way he was not going to be shot etc... was if he announced his surrender, disarmed and displayed his hands.

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                            • #59
                              packnrat
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 3939

                              i say they should have just waited him out. the murder was going no place.

                              not sorry he is dead. best thing to happen.


                              nobody else would have died. area was sealed off, the murder could not escape or change rooms without getting shot.

                              but yes a quick death, at very little cost to the tax payers ver a long life of easy going days, behind bars. very costly trials, endless appeals.

                              in ca gov brown would have given him a double room cell.
                              obama would have allow him free roam of the prison grounds, with a protection detail with him at all hrs.

                              Texas know's how to treat MURDERS.



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                              • #60
                                Spyder
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 17062

                                Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
                                No this was not combat.
                                The police do not and should not participate in combat.
                                Love it when our friendly overlords regale us with tales of combat. Because ya your junkie with a 9mm is exactly like getting ****ing mortared or ambushed. Yea.
                                The last cops I can think of that have a claim to a combat type situation would be north Hollywood shootout cops.
                                That's stupider than voting for Hillary.

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