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  • #31
    heidad01
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 4902

    Originally posted by God Bless America
    The bomb robots can have a 12-ga or other device to detonate bombs. I suspect that is what was used.

    I also don't like it at all. They should have waited him out.
    I don't like to see or hear anyone killed either and most certainly dislike hearing about cops shot and killed by a crazy nut job. But, wait this lunatic POS out to accomplish exactly what?

    To Capture him later after he shoots a few more people and then have a long and costly trial and most likely ending up having to house and feed him for the rest his life???

    He killed 5 people and shot a score of others, not to mention those people were all cops in uniform walking the street doing their job.
    I am glad they took him out the fastest way they could and it makes no difference to me how they take out a bad guy who is a menace to society.

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    • #32
      Citadelgrad87
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2007
      • 16907

      Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
      No this was not combat.
      The police do not and should not participate in combat.
      Love it when our friendly overlords regale us with tales of combat. Because ya your junkie with a 9mm is exactly like getting ****ing mortared or ambushed. Yea.
      The last cops I can think of that have a claim to a combat type situation would be north Hollywood shootout cops.
      Really? Seems like you are splitting hairs. Going up against a trained rifleman, and shooting at each other, seems like combat to this civilian. This was no junkie with a 9mm.
      Originally posted by tony270
      It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
      Originally posted by repubconserv
      Print it out and frame it for all I care
      Originally posted by el chivo
      I don't need to think at all..
      Originally posted by pjsig
      You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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      • #33
        God Bless America
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2014
        • 5163

        Originally posted by NYT
        yup, when you lie in wait to assassinate a public servant, your death warrant is signed.
        That's all fine and dandy but we don't have cops execute people.

        I am 110% pro death penalty; if I was given the switch, I would clear out death row like a flashbulb tomorrow.

        But if we want to be better than the criminals, then we have to obey our own rules, such as a trial.

        If we default to their level, then we justify their acting at that level.

        Ruby Ridge and Waco are examples of not waiting people out. The Freemen and their retarded "just us" township was an example of waiting.

        We can wait, fairly try the suspect, and fry him if guilty.

        We are supposed to be better than them, remember?

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        • #34
          Sapperforward
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 2928

          Originally posted by Truck286
          It is Part of the Robot...
          If they come across an explosive device that doesn't disarm or go foul with the Water Spraying Device the Robot has a Secondary device which remotely Destructs in order to Naturalize a Armed Explosive Device that is to dangerous to approach..
          No its not. They don't just self destruct the robot. They cost tens of thousands of dollars.

          They did what they have trained to do a million times before. They used the robot to deliver an explosive device at the end of a robotic boom arm. The purpose is to cause sypathetic detonation of the offending device. At that point one of two things happened. Either they detonated it on approach and destroyed the boom arm or they simply dropped a charge next to him and backed off the robot.

          In all reality the charge probably wasn't that large at all.

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          Last edited by Sapperforward; 07-08-2016, 12:47 PM.

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          • #35
            HumedoNino
            Banned
            • Jun 2016
            • 177

            Originally posted by NYT
            yup, when you lie in wait to assassinate a public servant, your death warrant is signed.
            But that could also be argued in reverse. If a cop murders an innocent person, either because he's racist or simply having a bad day, does this sign his death warrant?

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            • #36
              NYT
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2011
              • 3811

              Originally posted by God Bless America
              That's all fine and dandy but we don't have cops execute people.

              I am 110% pro death penalty; if I was given the switch, I would clear out death row like a flashbulb tomorrow.

              But if we want to be better than the criminals, then we have to obey our own rules, such as a trial.

              If we default to their level, then we justify their acting at that level.

              Ruby Ridge and Waco are examples of not waiting people out. The Freemen and their retarded "just us" township was an example of waiting.

              We can wait, fairly try the suspect, and fry him if guilty.

              We are supposed to be better than them, remember?
              we are better than them. we did not lie in wait to murder men and women who are sworn to protect the innocent.

              i understand your point but in this particular case, i am totally fine with law enforcement officers avenging their fallen brothers and sisters... even though i dont think that was the case here. they simply felt ending the threat of a bomb was more important than any of their officers being further endangered.

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              • #37
                NYT
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2011
                • 3811

                Originally posted by HumedoNino
                But that could also be argued in reverse. If a cop murders an innocent person, either because he's racist or simply having a bad day, does this sign his death warrant?
                if he lies in wait to assassinate an innocent, yes without a doubt. there are evil people on both sides.

                i am interested to see the evidence in MN for this exact reason. the officer did not lie in wait but he may have made a grave mistake or shot for racist reasons, we dont know anything yet.

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                • #38
                  HumedoNino
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 177

                  Originally posted by NYT
                  if he lies in wait to assassinate an innocent, yes without a doubt. there are evil people on both sides.

                  i am interested to see the evidence in MN for this exact reason. the officer did not lie in wait but he may have made a grave mistake or shot for racist reasons, we dont know anything yet.
                  You see, while I agree that murder should be awarded the death penalty, I am not for people taking the law into their own hands. If a person murders a cop, they should stand trial, just as a cop should if they murder someone wrongly. If we have a bunch of people running around handing out private justice, then we don't have any law and order.

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                  • #39
                    finyllw
                    Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 397

                    I think blowing the (badguy) apart is awesome.

                    I will start the debate of police having explosives a little later, when I'm done laughing.
                    Last edited by QuarterBoreGunner; 07-09-2016, 7:45 AM.
                    Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet.

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                    • #40
                      fal_762x51
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2708

                      They probably used a small charge to set off the primary explosive he had.
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                      • #41
                        Citadelgrad87
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 16907

                        Originally posted by HumedoNino
                        You see, while I agree that murder should be awarded the death penalty, I am not for people taking the law into their own hands. If a person murders a cop, they should stand trial, just as a cop should if they murder someone wrongly. If we have a bunch of people running around handing out private justice, then we don't have any law and order.
                        Fallacious argument. You need to arrest someone before they stand trial. Force is authorized, both to effect the arrest and to stop mayhem. If someone decides they won't be taken alive, that's not the police handing out punishment. The police have always been authorized to used force, including deadly force, to effect and arrest and stop an ongoing shooting spree.
                        Last edited by Citadelgrad87; 07-08-2016, 1:10 PM.
                        Originally posted by tony270
                        It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                        Originally posted by repubconserv
                        Print it out and frame it for all I care
                        Originally posted by el chivo
                        I don't need to think at all..
                        Originally posted by pjsig
                        You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
                        XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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                        • #42
                          djhall
                          Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 306

                          Originally posted by God Bless America
                          That's all fine and dandy but we don't have cops execute people.

                          I am 110% pro death penalty; if I was given the switch, I would clear out death row like a flashbulb tomorrow.

                          But if we want to be better than the criminals, then we have to obey our own rules, such as a trial.

                          If we default to their level, then we justify their acting at that level.

                          Ruby Ridge and Waco are examples of not waiting people out. The Freemen and their retarded "just us" township was an example of waiting.

                          We can wait, fairly try the suspect, and fry him if guilty.

                          We are supposed to be better than them, remember?
                          They didn't execute him. They "detonated to stop the threat".

                          The rest was just an unfortunate side effect. [emoji10]

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                          • #43
                            business
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 30

                            I could see this setting an interesting precedent. If saving lives regardless of the cost is the ultimate goal, don't be surprised when departments start asking for grenades and m203's.

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                            • #44
                              Fjold
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 22950

                              You must have lived without TV or news for your entire life if you didn't know that cops have explosives. Every big city has a bomb squad with explosives.
                              Frank

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                              Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                              • #45
                                God Bless America
                                Calguns Addict
                                • May 2014
                                • 5163

                                Originally posted by finyllw
                                I will start the debate of police having explosives a little later, when I'm done laughing.
                                While you're at it, ask yourself, did the robot first say "candygram for Mongo!" or did it have a small gift from Acme that made a ticking sound?

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