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  • ltzgolf
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2012
    • 373

    Not Gun Control but Purchase Control

    I am all for the 2nd Amendment, what I am not for is people being able to buy a firearm from a legal dealer that definitely should not be allowed to purchase said firearm. How is it that a guy being looked at 2 - 3 times from the FBI be able to buy a firearm. This is the Feds screwing the pooch and causing us law abiding citizens more grief.

    Do your frickin job FEDS and we wouldn't be in this position.
  • #2
    Wicked Pete
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 5182

    Grrief? "They" are going to Legislate us to death, one day we will probably give up the Shooting Sports because of too much hassle and too much money for added fees.

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    • #3
      Bangzoom
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2012
      • 6783

      Originally posted by Wicked Pete
      Grrief? "They" are going to Legislate us to death, one day we will probably give up the Shooting Sports because of too much hassle and too much money for added fees.
      yeah its totally ok to make "Reasonable laws" so they can now pile on 5000 reasonable laws?...at what point is the amount of "Reasonable laws" become unreasonable?

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      • #4
        Kyle1886
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 3998

        The various reports I read and other news sources stated that the investigation turned up nothing.

        If nothing was found to actually be actionable, what would/could the Feds do and still not infringe on his Constitutional rights. Thousands of folks are investigated by various agencies daily. I'd hate to think that just because someone is or has been investigated he/she relinquishes their rights.

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        • #5
          mjpjr1
          Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 233

          Originally posted by ltzgolf
          I am all for the 2nd Amendment, what I am not for is people being able to buy a firearm from a legal dealer that definitely should not be allowed to purchase said firearm. How is it that a guy being looked at 2 - 3 times from the FBI be able to buy a firearm. This is the Feds screwing the pooch and causing us law abiding citizens more grief.

          Do your frickin job FEDS and we wouldn't be in this position.
          Right? They should pass a law saying that if someone reports you to the police because they personally think you are unsafe, the police should be able to take away your firearms and deny you your 2nd ammendment rights even if after investigating the claims against you they find nothing. Great idea! Wonder why no one has thought of it before?
          Or maybe more intense background checks with longer waiting periods. That will keep everyone safe

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          • #6
            camaroguy2012
            Banned
            • Jan 2015
            • 697

            so then heres my question, if hes such a danger to prevent him from buying firearms why is he free? Where do you draw the line, well sure he cant buy a gun, but what about a sword or fertilizer to makr a bomb? why draw the line at guns?

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            • #7
              dwalker
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 2714

              Originally posted by ltzgolf
              I am all for the 2nd Amendment, what I am not for is people being able to buy a firearm from a legal dealer that definitely should not be allowed to purchase said firearm. How is it that a guy being looked at 2 - 3 times from the FBI be able to buy a firearm. This is the Feds screwing the pooch and causing us law abiding citizens more grief.

              Do your frickin job FEDS and we wouldn't be in this position.
              Because the Feds were unable to find anything that warranted him not owning a gun. Hindsight is 20/20.
              We need to get rid of the BGC system completely. All it really does, which it was intended to do, is discourage potential gun owners from purchasing firearms because they are too lazy or whatever to go through the steps to own a firearm.
              We need to get rid of gun free zones and instill Constitutional carry. If you are an American citizen you are allowed to own and carry a firearm.

              How much more proof do we need that no form of gun control works?


              Also, while we are at it, if you want to pass some laws to protect the innocent, require all registered Democrats to pass a background and psych checks, because they seem to commit a lot of these heinous crimes. Just look to thier leadership..
              Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

              Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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              • #8
                Whiterabbit
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2010
                • 7588

                Originally posted by dwalker
                How much more proof do we need that no form of gun control works?
                Not true. Total ban and confiscation works. Anything less will not.

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                • #9
                  DDM4556
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2601

                  Originally posted by dwalker
                  We need to get rid of gun free zones and instill Constitutional carry. If you are an American citizen you are allowed to own and carry a firearm.
                  This is how it should be and was meant to be - but never will be. Its all about control. The liberals have it, we don't. Their way to ensure that they stay in control is making sure they continue stripping away our rights. This latest shooting will do just that. Its a big win for them. Things are about to get a lot worse for us.
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                  • #10
                    heidad01
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 4902

                    Originally posted by dwalker

                    We need to get rid of gun free zones and instill Constitutional carry. If you are an American citizen you are allowed to own and carry a firearm.

                    How much more proof do we need that no form of gun control works?


                    ..
                    Well said.

                    No amount of gun control imposed on the law abiding citizens will discourage the nut jobs from their demented thoughts and actions.

                    However, even the crazies are not totally stupid. They hit the gun free zones and/or where ever they know there would be no defense and no one shooting back at them.

                    But, if Constitutional Carry was allowed, even the crazy bastards would not dare do what has been happening lately. They would know that some one or several from the receiving crowd will be ending their miserable life quickly before the carnage starts.

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                    • #11
                      Bansh88
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2500

                      I just hope our 50,000 Syrian Refugees are vetted a bit better than this guy. I'm sure they will......
                      Seems to have worked well for Europe

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                      • #12
                        nick
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 19151

                        Originally posted by Whiterabbit
                        Not true. Total ban and confiscation works. Anything less will not.
                        Looking at the disarmed countries - not really.
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                        • #13
                          Doheny
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13820

                          Originally posted by ltzgolf
                          I am all for the 2nd Amendment, what I am not for is people being able to buy a firearm from a legal dealer that definitely should not be allowed to purchase said firearm. How is it that a guy being looked at 2 - 3 times from the FBI be able to buy a firearm. This is the Feds screwing the pooch and causing us law abiding citizens more grief.

                          Do your frickin job FEDS and we wouldn't be in this position.
                          A lot of people here (on this site) have been talked to by LE more than once but haven't been convicted of anything. Should they have their guns taken away?

                          Originally posted by Kyle1886
                          The various reports I read and other news sources stated that the investigation turned up nothing.

                          If nothing was found to actually be actionable, what would/could the Feds do and still not infringe on his Constitutional rights. Thousands of folks are investigated by various agencies daily. I'd hate to think that just because someone is or has been investigated he/she relinquishes their rights.

                          Respectfully
                          Kyle
                          This.

                          Originally posted by Bansh88
                          I just hope our 50,000 Syrian Refugees are vetted a bit better than this guy. I'm sure they will......
                          Seems to have worked well for Europe
                          The shooter was an American citizen, born in the U.S. How was he supposed to be vetted?
                          Sent from Free America

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                          • #14
                            syntaxerror
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 760

                            Originally posted by Doheny
                            The shooter was an American citizen, born in the U.S. How was he supposed to be vetted?
                            The Feds should've looked into the shooter's father, especially if he lives on American soil. Apparently, he runs some kind of show and he proclaimed himself as the president of Afghanistan or something like that and praises the Taliban.
                            I'm pretty sure radical Islam and the way he was raised is to blame.
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                            • #15
                              1911CA
                              Member
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 121

                              Originally posted by Whiterabbit
                              Not true. Total ban and confiscation works. Anything less will not.
                              Tell that To Australia

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