Preventable Tragedy

[Win231]

This is what is wrong with the practice of "Securing guns only when kids are around." There are situations where kids may arrive when the gun owner is not aware of it. Or, as we get older, we may forget where every gun in the house is, and the one that is forgotten is all it takes for a lifetime of regret. Any gun that is not being worn should be in a lockbox - whether it's the law or not; it's just common sense. There is NO excuse for these tragedies today when there are quick-access lockboxes available. How "Your daddy kept guns back when you were kids" is irrelevant. No five-year-old can be expected to always obey his parents...even those "special" kids who are smarter than everyone else's.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/my-sister-shot-herself-5-year-old-dies-playing-with-father%e2%80%99s-unsecured-handgun/ar-BBtkLRH?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=DELLDHP

[ChuckDizzle]

In before paranoid "I need to stash guns all over my house and can't trust the 5 seconds it takes to open a lock box" crowd.

[Milsurps]

Your going to love Shillery.

[sandiego67]

This is what is wrong with the practice of "Securing guns only when kids are around." There are situations where kids may arrive when the gun owner is not aware of it. Or, as we get older, we may forget where every gun in the house is, and the one that is forgotten is all it takes for a lifetime of regret. Any gun that is not being worn should be in a lockbox - whether it's the law or not; it's just common sense. There is NO excuse for these tragedies today when there are quick-access lockboxes available. How "Your daddy kept guns back when you were kids" is irrelevant. No five-year-old can be expected to always obey his parents...even those "special" kids who are smarter than everyone else's.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/my-...L&ocid=DELLDHP

Yep. This is one (of many) where I detour from the gun crowd who insist that they have every god-given right to do whatever they feel with their guns.

Be prepared to be called a "nanny".

[ChuckDizzle]

Your going to love Shillery.

Yeah, the NRA are antigun too right?

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2016/4/14/6-ways-to-safely-store-your-firearms/

[ChuckDizzle]

Yep. This is one (of many) where I detour from the gun crowd who insist that they have every god-given right to do whatever they feel with their guns.

Be prepared to be called a "nanny".

These people are the same types who refuse to wear seatbelts because they insist they will be thrown free from the wreckage and survive with scrapes.

The fact we needed to make laws regarding seatbelts, child safety seats, and storing firearms shows just how willfully ignorant many people are.

[Milsurps]

Your going to love Shillery.

Yeah, the NRA are antigun too right?

https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2...your-firearms/

With Shillery we wont have any guns. Problem solved.

[CALI-gula]

This is what is wrong with the practice of "Securing guns only when kids are around." There are situations where kids may arrive when the gun owner is not aware of it. Or, as we get older, we may forget where every gun in the house is, and the one that is forgotten is all it takes for a lifetime of regret. Any gun that is not being worn should be in a lockbox - whether it's the law or not; it's just common sense. There is NO excuse for these tragedies today when there are quick-access lockboxes available. How "Your daddy kept guns back when you were kids" is irrelevant. No five-year-old can be expected to always obey his parents...even those "special" kids who are smarter than everyone else's.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/my-...L&ocid=DELLDHP

1) I don't have kids.

2) Nobody with kids will ever be visiting my home.

3) No family with kids.

4) Any friends with kids no longer have kids; they have adults.

No need for the above for my HD specified guns, and yes, more than 50 years of guns in my home throughout the entire run of my lifetime including as a kid, and never once an ND or unsafe handling situation.

I never took my dad's chainsaw, drill, or mom's butcher knife, hairdryer and bathtub, the 3600 pound weapon in the driveway or anything else and did something as equally stupid with it.

Thank you for your respective thoughts, and have a nice day. All things are relative. My situation is not your situation, nor relate to the cited link, and thoughts like yours are why legislative mandates are being pushed to enforce how you store your guns in your own home.

Your opinion stops at my door step. Let's leave it that way.


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[Jimi Jah]

My home has been childproofed, they are prevented from entering.

[ChuckDizzle]

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No need for the above for my HD specified guns, and yes, more than 50 years of guns in my home throughout the entire run of my lifetime including as a kid, and never once an ND or unsafe handling situation.

I never took my dad's chainsaw, drill, or mom's butcher knife, hairdryer and bathtub, the 3600 pound weapon in the driveway or anything else and did something as equally stupid with it.


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I'm guessing you survived your childhood because you "were raised right?" That's my favorite one, when grown folks have forgotten that children lack the capacity and understanding of the gravity of consequences for their actions.

It's ok though, hundreds of kids will die from negligence year after year and it will continue to give a valid premise to the people who argue citizens aren't responsible enough to protect themselves with firearms. As long as it doesn't happen to you individually it isn't worth considering.

[CALI-gula]

These people are the same types who refuse to wear seatbelts because they insist they will be thrown free from the wreckage and survive with scrapes.

The fact we needed to make laws regarding seatbelts, child safety seats, and storing firearms shows just how willfully ignorant many people are.

Wrong. I wear a seat belt, always wear a helmet, and I'm always safe with my guns. But I don't need to wear a seat-belt if just sitting in my car on a public street, and I don't need to wear a helmet if just sitting on the motorcycle in a parking space on a public street, and yet an LEO can give you a ticket for either.

Situations are relative, and as I described above, your situation is not mine and does not apply. We DON'T need to make such laws. You DON'T need to interfere.

For anyone with kids or kids that would visit their home; yes, of course, YOUR situation dictates you need to lock up your guns. Agree.

But you are plotting a need for laws when you subscribed to the idea that everyone must follow suit. Do you know how many kids under the age of 18 get killed sneaking out with the parents' car in the middle of the night when specifically told not to do so? Hundreds to thousands.

So do you want laws that require adults to lock up their car keys at night with threat of penalty under the law? Or required to lock up medication? Or chemicals under the sink? Or dad's chainsaw?

Be very careful what you wish for...

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[Foebia]

Many things in life are preventable. Why pick only this one?

[glockman19]

This is what is wrong with the practice of "Securing guns only when kids are around." There are situations where kids may arrive when the gun owner is not aware of it. Or, as we get older, we may forget where every gun in the house is, and the one that is forgotten is all it takes for a lifetime of regret. Any gun that is not being worn should be in a lockbox - whether it's the law or not; it's just common sense. There is NO excuse for these tragedies today when there are quick-access lockboxes available. How "Your daddy kept guns back when you were kids" is irrelevant. No five-year-old can be expected to always obey his parents...even those "special" kids who are smarter than everyone else's.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/my-...L&ocid=DELLDHP

I agree. When children are in the home firearms should be inaccessible to them.

[ChuckDizzle]

Many things in life are preventable. Why pick only this one?

Because this is a gun forum? I'm sure if you went to a motorcycle forum there would be articles posted about how jacked up a minor wreck is when people don't wear a helmet and leathers.

[billofrights]

No laws are going to prevent the fact that this guy was an idiot. The girl didn't sneak it out of the nightstand drawer or the top of the closet- HE LEFT IT SITTING ON THE TABLE.

Article says "She told WDSU that Moore’s children were “aware” of their father’s guns but that anytime they were in his home, he put the firearms away." If you have guns and kids, you absolutely must teach them about gun safety, or at least warn them that it's not a toy until they're old enough to be taught. This is bad parenting and carelessness, pure and simple.