How many of you are now REAL anti-vax?

[Waldo]

Flouncer is correct..the shingles series is a 2 shot deal, separated by 2 to 6 months.

Statistically, I believe its a 2 out of 5 chance of having shingles. The rash is bad enough, but its the neuropathy that's really trying to be avoided..and if it gets into the eyes, its pretty bad news.

It is, like other vaccines or "shots", a very individual decision, with information to make that decision not as reliable as you would like to hope. Some folks just knowing or seeing someone with the condition is enough to help make that decision.

With the Covid shots dropping off, expect to see a bigger push for shingles, pneumonia and flu shots..

[XDJYo]

I dont trust any more, and I am deeply disgusted with the Farma and .gov for their BS. I wont forget, ever.

Same here.


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[Term]

worth a listen.

[Dan_Eastvale]

I had shingles because I had Chicken Pox as a kid.

Not fun. MD suggested the newer Shinglix vax (two doses, original and later booster) since the medical community agrees you can get Shingles again, but usually in a different place.

I had it on my lower right side for three weeks. Bad enough but it would be absolutely hideous to have it on one side of your face and possibly involving the eye.

Definitely took their advice

I am NOT anti all vaccines.

[GimpsUnlimited]

worth a listen.

The resistance put up by that doctor and the woman presenter mirrors mentality of majority of the US subjects: Well, it did work against xxx disease/virus, thus mission accomplished. Never mind the facts and data prsented by RFK Jr. on several such "vaccines" deadly long term side effects. Just like the clot-shot, if the subjects dies weeks, months, or years later of some other seemingly unrelated causes, how can they trace it back to the origin? Even if you can, the vaccine manufactures enjoys total immunity, unlike every other drugs in the market. Yeah, definitely not suspicious at all.

"The death of one man: that is a catastrophe. One hundred thousand deaths: that is a statistic!? --- German journalist and satirist Kurt Tucholsky in 1925

[TheGood]

Most our diseases were sanitation based. About the only one I would give my child would be TDAP and MMR as those are the only ones that provide lasting immunity.

I agree. Our understanding in virus/bacteria and the resulting improvement in sanitation/habits are the biggest factors IMO. Not the vaccines.

Except, the MMR -combined- shot is highly suspected of causing autism in children. The CDC/FDA has flat out blocked/classified the data from being released because the evidence is so damming.

One bad vax does not mean all vaxs are bad. Basic critical thinking error.

If the gov is pushing an injection that causes people to die, and were caught red handed for causing the pandemic, why do I want ANY needle to be stuck in my arm?
Basic error of logic, IMO.


I'll take a tetanus shot if I get a deep wound, but that's about it.


And BTW the drug MFR's are moving to make other vaccines the mRNA type because of the 'success' of the COVID vaccines. I guess they determine what success is differently than I do.

[SanDiego619]

It's all about money. These mrna jabs won't cause problems for decades, the people pushing them will face no personal consequences. They will be retired, the CEO down to the people giving the injections have nothing to worry about, lawsuits like this take decades to happen.

Anyone who trusts the government (CDC) is a complete fool.

[Term]

Redacted News

You won't believe what AstraZeneca is doing to babies with a new vax.

https://rumble.com/v31k8jj-you-wont-believe-what-astrazeneca-is-doing-to-babies-with-a-new-vax-redacte.html

[Warbonnet]

Risk vs reward is my view. I am anti forcing people low risk to have mandatory vaccines, especially untested. And for older people, people with health issues, people who would not survive the type of covid pneumonia---or any pneumonia we saw in the beginning, then what do they have to lose by a vaccine?

I don't trust big pharma; doesn't mean many vaccines are not important to some.


RFK jr mentioned something which I never considered when our kids were younger and schools required a battery of vaccines for them to go to school. But included with small pox, measles and some you really need protection for, why where they insisting on vaccines for hepatitis? Something unless you are a drug user, healthcare worker, first responder, or living in a filthy 3rd world country; most children in the USA are not at risk of hepatitis. So, why were we being convinced to get those? Money maybe?

[jager56]

Something

[DGoodale]

I think I am glad I got the shingles vaccine before most of this nonsense.

Me too. Having had shingles once in my early 20's, there is no way I want that again now that I'm getting close to retirement. Although the second one did leave me with a rash / hives reaction for a few days. Not itchy, just visible.

[theLBC]

i'm glad i don't have little kids and have to make those decisions now.
i'm not currently inclined to get vaccinated for anything. never had a flu shot.

[XDJYo]

if you had shingles once, didn't you get antibodies that will prevent you from getting it again?

that's what a vaccine is. Introducing the disease to tell your body to create antibodies. Once your body has the information, it's for life.

But, that?s not how shingles works. Once you?ve had chicken pox, it lies dormant in your body until it decides to pop back up into your life. Kind like that long lost drug addict uncle.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/shingles/symptoms-causes/syc-20353054

Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus ? the same virus that causes chickenpox. After you've had chickenpox, the virus stays in your body for the rest of your life. Years later, the virus may reactivate as shingles.


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[GimpsUnlimited]

But, that?s not how shingles works. Once you?ve had chicken pox, it lies dormant in your body until it decides to pop back up into your life. Kind like that long lost drug addict uncle.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/shingles/symptoms-causes/syc-20353054

Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus ? the same virus that causes chickenpox. After you've had chickenpox, the virus stays in your body for the rest of your life. Years later, the virus may reactivate as shingles.


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No, El Chivo is correct. Just like every other virus, your own body's immune system is key. Once one had it and recovered, one should be "immune" to it. By "immune", I mean one's body will be able to fight off future infections easily w/o much rash and other side effects.

As for the link you provided, I find it very interesting: "Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus, the same virus that causes chickenpox.... Varicella-zoster is part of a group of viruses called herpes viruses. This is the same group that includes the viruses that cause cold sores and genital herpes." So let me get this straight. There is no "vaccine" for herpes. Yet there is one for Shingles. Yup, totally legit.

And there is this gem: "A person with shingles can pass the varicella-zoster virus to anyone who isn't immune to chickenpox." But wait, didn't the article clearly stated that they are caused by the same virus? And if you immune of one, then ...

Finally, the disclaimer: "The shingles vaccine doesn't guarantee that you won't get shingles. But this vaccine will likely reduce the course and severity of the disease." Say, where have I read/heard this before?!