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  • GimpsUnlimited
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1653

    How many of you are now REAL anti-vax?

    I know most of us had a rude awakening in the past 3 years. Our faith in the medical integrity permanently compromised. Thank god that we were always mistrust of the .gov/MSM and have the fortitude to resist conformity. Otherwise, we would have been victims of the jabs too. How many of you have asked yourself: If .gov and MSM are willing to lie to us about this jab, what other lies have they perpetrated upon us?

    1. Is injecting Fluoride into the public water supply really safe? If it is safe, why are the children's toothpaste fluoride-free?

    2. How safe are the HPV vaccines really?

    3. Look at the CDC's vaccine guide from birth to adult for reference. How safe are all those vaccines that they FORCE us to inject into babies from birth? Are they necessary?


    4. Since VARS is criminally undercounting vax-injured for this jab, how accurate are the data of vax-injury for other vaccines?

    5. How is the explosion of autism link to the mandatory vaccine of babies since the 1960? What of the declining male sperm count in the developed countries? Last I checked, it was 50% below "norm".

    6. Oh, I have always mistrusted flu shot. Notice how they NEVER called it flu vaccine before until this jab questioned the meaning of "vaccine"? I always thought it as placebo. Now, I am not even sure if it is as benign as a sugar pill placebo.


    The flu vaccine has been in widespread use in the US since the 1960s.

    The CDC is even older; it?s been around since July 1, 1946.

    Has the CDC ever made the vax-death record-level data (as described here) on the flu publicly available?

    Nope.

    So don?t expect they will be transparent with the COVID vaccine data anytime soon.
    Last edited by GimpsUnlimited; 03-17-2023, 10:07 PM.
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    ProfChaos
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 1111



    Trying to find a larger image of this.

    Most our diseases were sanitation based. About the only one I would give my child would be TDAP and MMR as those are the only ones that provide lasting immunity.
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    • #3
      DaveInOroValley
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2010
      • 8967

      We don't do anything after seeing what went on with clot shot. And to echo another person here our trust in the medical community as a whole has been shattered.
      Last edited by DaveInOroValley; 03-18-2023, 12:20 PM.
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      • #4
        Garand Hunter
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 2771

        Anti vax from, day 1 Period. Also anti flu vax !

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        • #5
          Beelzy
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2008
          • 9224

          No GMO!
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          • #6
            stormvet
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2010
            • 12201

            Certainly makes you leery, I’ve served in four different continents. Had more shots/vaxxes than the majority of Americans. Never questioned it before the clot shot, don’t consider myself an anti-vaxxer. But will be far more cautious about it now. The one that really surprised me is my wife, I do believe that women is indeed becoming an anti-vaxxer.
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            • #7
              sigfan91
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              • Jun 2009
              • 10290

              I’m not anti-vax. I am anti-fraud.

              However, recent events have made me question existing vaccines thought to be safe for years. One example is the shingles vaccine. I would have gotten it before this wuhan fiasco. Now I hesitate.

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              • #8
                TrappedinCalifornia
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2018
                • 9001

                I've never been anti-vaxx. However, from the get-go, I questioned whether the COVID shot was going to be an actual vaccine or something else. As information emerged, it became clear that it was 'something else' and not a vaccine by our traditional understanding/definition of a vaccine.

                This has been one of the true tragedies of the entire debacle. People now not only question, but have a sense of legitimacy for their hesitance in being vaccinated against anything.

                I recently required a Tetanus booster as a necessary precaution. I didn't hesitate given the injury. But, I did 'wonder' a bit if it was like the traditional booster or if it has been 'updated' into 'something else.'

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                • #9
                  ACfixer
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 6053

                  Originally posted by sigfan91
                  I?m not anti-vax. I am anti-fraud.
                  Sums it up for me, and yes I see your point OP.
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                  • #10
                    Dan_Eastvale
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 10059

                    I’m not anti COVID vax.
                    I’m against MANDATORY COVID Vax.
                    Last edited by Dan_Eastvale; 03-17-2023, 9:16 PM.

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                    • #11
                      ibanezfoo
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 11681

                      My trust in the medical industrial complex is gone.
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                      • #12
                        GimpsUnlimited
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1653

                        Originally posted by ProfChaos
                        Most our diseases were sanitation based. About the only one I would give my child would be TDAP and MMR as those are the only ones that provide lasting immunity.
                        I agree. Our understanding in virus/bacteria and the resulting improvement in sanitation/habits are the biggest factors IMO. Not the vaccines.

                        Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                        I?m not anti COVID vax.
                        I?m against MANDATORY COVID Vax.
                        There, I fixed for you. I believe the mandatory vax of ANY kind is immoral. The lie they push on covid jab was that it was to "protect others". The same argument was made for the mandatory injection of all vax listed on CDC. Since this argument for covid jab is proven false, shouldn't all other vax be made elective instead of mandatory?
                        Last edited by GimpsUnlimited; 03-17-2023, 10:10 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Epaphroditus
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 4888

                          Now that it's plain to see that the FDA simply bends over to pharma no one with any sense can trust anything from FDA.

                          Intramuscular shots for respiratory virus is nonsense.

                          Consider the great deviation from inoculation versus natural infection and as such vaccination is problematic and generally results in excessive immune response and likely trigger autoimmune syndromes.

                          Antibody Dependent Enhancement is real.

                          The entire conception of mRNA injections is stupid - making our cells produce pathogens ... it's at best triggers an autoimmune response to kill our cells.
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                          • #14
                            stormvet
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 12201

                            Originally posted by sigfan91
                            I?m not anti-vax. I am anti-fraud.

                            However, recent events have made me question existing vaccines thought to be safe for years. One example is the shingles vaccine. I would have gotten it before this wuhan fiasco. Now I hesitate.
                            Same here, my daughter has been on me to get it. She?s a legal drug pusher(pharmacist) who from day one refused the clot shot, I?m just not comfortable with the risk/reword of it.
                            Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                            • #15
                              Nor Cal Scot
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1349

                              I'm definitely leery... Bbut I've also been shot up since day one. Growing up military and being in the Navy, I got hit up with shots. These days, I havent taken any vaccines since my MILITARY discharge.
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