How many of you are now REAL anti-vax?

[johncage]

never had a problem with vaccines before, but this experience definitely swore me off. if they're willing to damage and kill people to make money, i can't trust anything else they come out with.

[Scota4570]

My trust in the medical industrial complex is gone.

That is where I am too. I now research whatever the doctor want to do. It causes friction. I have avoided serious issues. Surgeons always want to do surgery, one surgeon I ran from lost his license for unnecessary surgery. All for them want to push unnecessary pills. They get "wellness bonuses" for doing so. The research and reviews of drugs is controlled by the pharmaceutical industry and their willing co-conspirators in the government. Welcome to socialized medicine.

[JWHuey]

Yes.

I have 2 daughters, 6, and 13. Neither will get ANY annual/semi annual jabs, and we now totally regret giving them the "required" immunizations as well.

We both have family members (and friends) who we believe suffered injury/death from faucissauce.

The corruption has been fully exposed, imho.

[Fate]

Anti Covid vax. Skeptical about most others now.

[OlderThanDirt]

I am not anti-wax, wax saved my life (rabies), I am against GMO treatment with ZERO safety record and ZERO efficiency, mandate and lies. And I didn?t do single ?COVID? ?cloth generating? shots.

I?m not anti wax and have used Sex Wax for decades. And let me tell you, I would be highly suspicious of cloth generating shots. I also refuse to be subjected to GMO treatments. I?m not a plant.

[nick]

Vaccines are a useful tool, and I see no point to throw out the baby with bath water just because some *******s perpetrated fraud with covidiocy. I'd like to see that addressed though, including prevention measures against such fraud and punishing all involved. I'm not holding my breath.

[LBDamned]

Vaccines are a useful tool, and I see no point to throw out the baby with bath water just because some *******s perpetrated fraud with covidiocy. I'd like to see that addressed though, including prevention measures against such fraud and punishing all involved. I'm not holding my breath.

I think people have lost trust in the method rather than the substance.

IOW - the reason behind administering vaccines (and other) rather than what the vaccine is actually capable of.

Like (almost) all things - unintended consequences...

Sinister people can f up a good thing. That's their goal.

[ibanezfoo]

That is where I am too. I now research whatever the doctor want to do. It causes friction. I have avoided serious issues. Surgeons always want to do surgery, one surgeon I ran from lost his license for unnecessary surgery. All for them want to push unnecessary pills. They get "wellness bonuses" for doing so. The research and reviews of drugs is controlled by the pharmaceutical industry and their willing co-conspirators in the government. Welcome to socialized medicine.

Yes exactly! It seems all they want to do is get you hooked on their drugs. My wife still goes to the doctor and every damned time they don't care about her problem, its here take these pills for the next 6 months since your symptoms are listed on the package. F that. Worse than street dealers. Its not "don't do drugs" anymore, its "don't do those drugs, do our drugs". Where is Barbara Bush when you need her? Are their any good doctors left who aren't pill pushers? I might have some faith left in emergency docs since they have an immediate task to handle that is generally mechanical and not chemical.

[arrix]

I?m not anti wax and have used Sex Wax for decades. And let me tell you, I would be highly suspicious of cloth generating shots. I also refuse to be subjected to GMO treatments. I?m not a plant.

Every woman should to get waxed.

[1911RONIN]

One bad vax does not mean all vaxs are bad. Basic critical thinking error.


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[JoeNSD]

That is where I am too. I now research whatever the doctor want to do. It causes friction. I have avoided serious issues. Surgeons always want to do surgery, one surgeon I ran from lost his license for unnecessary surgery. All for them want to push unnecessary pills. They get "wellness bonuses" for doing so. The research and reviews of drugs is controlled by the pharmaceutical industry and their willing co-conspirators in the government. Welcome to socialized medicine.

I third this.

I am former military, so like others I've gotten just about every shot under the sun, INCLUDING some shots in the early 2000s that was cancelled mid-series and was never properly explained, at least to me.

As a young man, I still trusted that, hey, maybe people make mistakes - but at least they meant well.

I no longer think that. COVID shattered every illusion I have about our pharma-industrial complex and its ability to be used as tool of authoritarianism. I don't consider myself anti-vax, I think traditional vaccines have their place and are important. I am NOW very suspicious about the childhood series and whether they all been studied properly and whether some of them do more harm than good, but I do not demand that they are banned - only that they continue to be studied.

I do not believe in mandated vaccines or drugs or anything that violates the bodily autonomy of a human being, but I was simply an idle observer before. I am not now.

In a sense - COVID was a good thing for free people around the world, because it shook us out of our comfort zone. More people are wide awake now, not just against mandated "vaccines", but against any encroachment on their freedoms. As such, I will end with two timeless quotes that are more relevent to me now than at any other point in my life:

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."
- Abraham Lincoln

"[Do we have a Monarchy or a Republic?] A Republic - if you can keep it."
- Benjamin Franklin

[Scota4570]

The upside of all this mess is that many people are doing their own research. Doctors and health departments are no longer blindly trusted by everyone.

The covid mRNA vaccine is now much more likely to kill or harm you than covid. This is a fact. Yet I see TV and radio ads put out by the government that are selling the VAX to gullible and ignorant people. Are the people producing these adds morons, willing co-conspirators, or just plain evil? At this point I am tired of trying to educate people with facts and logic. If someone is harmed and I have tried to convince them repeatedly, it is on them. I do feel terrible for children of bad parents. Jabbing a child should be a punishable offense. I doctor who recommends it should be in prison. A parent who allows it is unfit.

Watch before it is censored:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyo2UNQcdpQ

[sigfan91]

One bad vax does not mean all vaxs are bad. Basic critical thinking error.


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No one here says all vaccines are bad. We all trust the old tried and true small pox vaccine. We all trust the dozens of other vaccines that have proven themselves over the last decades, if not a century. We just question these new vaccines that don?t have the proven track records like the old ones. We hesitate on those. We will let others beta test these new products before we commit. And we are glad that many libtards have volunteered to test the Biden vaccine and found it to be defective.

[CartridgeCalls]

I?m not anti COVID vax.
I?m against MANDATORY COVID Vax.

What he said. I was for forced to get the jab. That in itself made me lose all faith in human rights.

[Bot]

Let?s get this straight nobody was forced to take this past weak people excuses

You can?t be anti-VAX when there is no vaccine out. They never created one they have something that they?re calling a vaccine but it never met the definition of vaccine that?s why they had to legally change the definition of vaccine twice so it fit their narrative, pure criminalistic murderous people

So with the fact that there is no vaccine out because one was never made. Normal people do trust vaccines that went to the normal process of 10 to 12 years and all the proper trials not one that cheated every EUA requirement and again that?s why I said no vaccine was ever created

Now they did come up with something to kill people and instead of giving you an allergy-based 100 spike proteins from Covid itself it gives you thousands upon thousands upon thousands and just keeps replicating them so they did create that but that?s just something to kill people that actually has zero benefit for anything and that?s why you can?t call it a vaccine