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  • duenor
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Mar 2007
    • 4617

    Remember When "Sweden Had It Right?"



    "Sweden ripped the band-aid off and now they have herd immunity"
    - Not working out so well.
    Tegnell, who has become known for designing Sweden's anti-lockdown policy, admitted this week that the country was seeing significant spread of the virus across the country. "I don't think the definition is that important, but we see community spread in many regions simultaneously right now," [Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell] told a press conference, according to Reuters.
    “The number of people we don’t find with diagnostics is with high probability smaller than we thought,” [Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell] said. [reuters]
    “The developments are going in the wrong direction fast. More are infected. More die. This is a serious situation,” (Prime Minister Lofven, now in quarantine)
    "Sweden never did anything"
    - Not true - the population was told to socially distance, work from home, and schools other than primary/kinder were closed. >50 gatherings prohibited, yes even in churches. Now actual restrictions are being implemented as well. Bars are now closed.
    Refrain from visits to indoor environments such as shops, shopping centres, museums, libraries, swimming pools and gyms. Necessary visits to grocery stores and pharmacies are allowed.
    Refrain from participating in gatherings such as meetings, concerts, performances, sports training, matches and competitions. However, this does not apply to sports training for children and young people born in 2005 or later.
    If possible, physical contact with people other than those with whom you live should be avoided. This means, among other things, to refrain from arranging or attending parties and similar social gatherings.
    "Don't look at cases! Cases don't mean anything!"
    - Well how about hospitalizations and deaths? Sweden's deaths per 100k is 60.12. Finland: 6.61. Norway: 5.48. Denmark: 13.02 Estonia: 5.75 Latvia: 5.55
    There are currently 1,004 patients being treated for the virus in the Nordic nation’s hospitals — up 60 percent from the previous week’s 627
    Anyone who believes Rand Paul's (opthalmologist who lost his certification many years ago) crap about 20% herd immunity needs to get their heads out of the sand, or at least stop telling other people to do join them in denial.
    Last edited by duenor; 11-13-2020, 9:27 AM.
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  • #2
    CessnaDriver
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 10772

    Covid gonna covid until it doesn’t. No point worrying and shutting down life for something even masks and shutdowns doesn’t work.


    "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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    • #3
      MJB
      CGSSA Associate
      • Sep 2010
      • 5925

      Oh no the Boogeyman is going to get me!
      One life so don't blow it......Always die with your boots on!

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      • #4
        Paul_R
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2011
        • 2847

        Remember when we could trust government and mainstream media for accurate information? Me neither...
        Fear is a social disease

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        • #5
          therealnickb
          King- Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2011
          • 8944

          Remember when 50,000,000 died every year and we didn’t wreck the world economy and so many people by trying to “fix” the unfixable?

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          • #6
            Scota4570
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2006
            • 1724

            Sweden is still right.

            "Cases" are irrelevant due to the deliberate misrepresentation of the data and definitions. It is purely political. My only surprize is that Biden is doubling down on terrorizing the citizenry. I thought he would declare victory on the virus when Trump was defeated.

            Deaths of young healthy people do matter. There are virtually none of those. Deaths are concentrated on old people who are in the process of dying from other causes. Polio for instance, was a real tragedy and something to be feared. As viruses go this one is pretty "fair".

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            • #7
              musick
              CGSSA Associate
              • Sep 2012
              • 1062

              The bleating of the sheep is the only sound...

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              • #8
                subscriber
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 929

                Notice on that chart how low the (cases or deaths?) were for August? That is because the weather was warm, and people were not locked down in buildings. Now that it has turned cold, the people automatically stay indoors. This means closer together.

                Thus, confining people to smaller spaces, with less freedom to go where they please, and associate as the will, tends to increase "cases" and "covid deaths"; rather than reduce them. So, lockdowns are counterproductive, unless you consider ulterior motives: To cripple the world economy, because cold, hungry evicted people will do whatever you say for relief.

                Think of the small spike in June on that chart as creating a firebreak. Then explain how does the later large spike form, after the fire has essentially burnt out most of the fuel before August?

                Covid controls over the population will continue until "they" have implemented the great reset. Even if this takes reporting a new covid-21 to get there...

                The great reset implementation is guaranteed, if Biden gets to run the country. He is the perfect puppet to do this, as his own judgement is not enough to get in the way. During moments of clarity, he will assume the policy position of the highest bidder. Never mind that it will ultimately lead to poverty and slavery for the average person.

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                • #9
                  SAN compnerd
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2009
                  • 4725

                  Originally posted by duenor


                  "Sweden ripped the band-aid off and now they have herd immunity"
                  - Not working out so well.




                  "Sweden never did anything"
                  - Not true - the population was told to socially distance, work from home, and schools other than primary/kinder were closed. >50 gatherings prohibited, yes even in churches. Now actual restrictions are being implemented as well. Bars are now closed.


                  "Don't look at cases! Cases don't mean anything!"
                  - Well how about hospitalizations and deaths? Sweden's deaths per 100k is 60.12. Finland: 6.61. Norway: 5.48. Denmark: 13.02 Estonia: 5.75 Latvia: 5.55


                  Anyone who believes Rand Paul's (opthalmologist who lost his certification many years ago) crap about 20% herd immunity needs to get their heads out of the sand, or at least stop telling other people to do join them in denial.
                  Every country in Europe looks like that today, if not worse. If your point was to be meaningless you succeeded.

                  France
                  France Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  Spain
                  Spain Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  UK
                  United Kingdom Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  Italy
                  Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  Belgium
                  Belgium Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  Netherlands
                  Netherlands Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  Sweden
                  Sweden Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.


                  Nice cherry picking on the numbers for the deaths per 100k number.

                  Belgium is 119.

                  Netherlands is 49
                  Last edited by SAN compnerd; 11-13-2020, 11:13 AM.
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                  Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                  When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                  • #10
                    Citadelgrad87
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 16934

                    Originally posted by duenor


                    "Sweden ripped the band-aid off and now they have herd immunity"
                    - Not working out so well.




                    "Sweden never did anything"
                    - Not true - the population was told to socially distance, work from home, and schools other than primary/kinder were closed. >50 gatherings prohibited, yes even in churches. Now actual restrictions are being implemented as well. Bars are now closed.


                    "Don't look at cases! Cases don't mean anything!"
                    - Well how about hospitalizations and deaths? Sweden's deaths per 100k is 60.12. Finland: 6.61. Norway: 5.48. Denmark: 13.02 Estonia: 5.75 Latvia: 5.55


                    Anyone who believes Rand Paul's (opthalmologist who lost his certification many years ago) crap about 20% herd immunity needs to get their heads out of the sand, or at least stop telling other people to do join them in denial.
                    GLOBALLY< there are reports that it is ramping up, here, Greece, etc.

                    What is your contention? Is Sweden worse off than we are? Biden's guy wants a 6 month hard shutdown. Why?
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                    • #11
                      SAN compnerd
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 4725

                      Originally posted by Scota4570
                      Sweden is still right.

                      "Cases" are irrelevant due to the deliberate misrepresentation of the data and definitions. It is purely political. My only surprize is that Biden is doubling down on terrorizing the citizenry. I thought he would declare victory on the virus when Trump was defeated.

                      Deaths of young healthy people do matter. There are virtually none of those. Deaths are concentrated on old people who are in the process of dying from other causes. Polio for instance, was a real tragedy and something to be feared. As viruses go this one is pretty "fair".
                      The fact that Biden is continuing what the Dem governors around the nation started just tells you that the purpose is medical tyranny, has zero to do with public health and safety.

                      LA has been on masking orders since March and yet the spread there hasn't slowed at all, and now they are seeing a huge increase in numbers.

                      Why? If masks work and the city has been near 100% compliance as we saw from a recent CDC report on masking compliance, why is this still spreading?

                      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                      • #12
                        bigbossman
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 11169

                        Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                        ....If your point was to be meaningless you succeeded.
                        This literally made me laugh out loud.
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                        • #13
                          upsdude
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 210

                          people still care about this noise?


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                          • #14
                            hunterb
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3796

                            Lol 89% iTrader.

                            OP is obviously unreliable and not a man of his word.
                            Take anything he says with a grain of salt as his character is lacking.

                            ....also appears OP hasn’t bought it sold any guns since 2008....
                            WE GOT AN OBAMA GUN OWNER!
                            Last edited by hunterb; 11-13-2020, 11:40 AM.
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                            • #15
                              bigbossman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 11169

                              Originally posted by hunterb
                              Lol 89% iTrader.

                              OP is obviously unreliable and not a man of his word.
                              Take anything he says with a grain of salt as his character is lacking.

                              ....also appears OP hasn’t bought it sold any guns since 2008....
                              WE GOT AN OBAMA GUN OWNER!
                              Wow...... hiding in plain sight. Didn't see that at all, so thanks for pointing it out.
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