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  • #31
    MrFancyPants
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 1159

    Nonsense. Calguns experts have already proven coronavirus has a mortality rate 1000x higher than the flu, government officials are piling into undergrond shelters, and martial law is coming any day now.... any day now...... any day now......

    /sarcasm

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    • #32
      smashycrashy
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 2999

      Originally posted by sd_shooter
      The panic & deception was being walked back across the board.

      CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield predicted the death toll from the coronavirus will be "much, much, much lower" than models have projected.




      In other words, "We made up huge numbers in order to create a panic." (And they'll do it again whenever they want to control the population or need a few Trillion )

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      • #33
        sd_shooter
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2008
        • 13137

        I don't think they're using a model now, merely extrapolating from the real results.

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        • #34
          M1NM
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2011
          • 7966

          Ok it's now as bad as a regular flu season. Imagine what it would have been without all the precautions.

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          • #35
            sd_shooter
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2008
            • 13137

            Originally posted by M1NM
            Ok it's now as bad as a regular flu season. Imagine what it would have been without all the precautions.
            We'll never know. But we do know that millions will be without work, Trillions of dollars down the drain.

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            • #36
              freedom-lover
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 553

              cue jism racer - "are you a doctor?"

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              • #37
                DrjonesUSA
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 4680

                Originally posted by sd_shooter
                We'll never know. But we do know that millions will be without work, Trillions of dollars down the drain.

                Serious question since these are precisely the numbers we are debating;

                How many more dead would have been acceptable to you, in exchange for a reduction in economic damage?

                Would you rather have had millions dead - including possibly your parents / anyone in your life that you care about over the age of 50 - and billions in economic damages, or tens of thousands dead with trillions in econ. losses?

                How much is a human life worth to you?

                It's kind of moot & maybe I'm a hypocrite because I'm now starting to think that maybe it is time to end the lockdowns....at least I don't think they should extend beyond maybe next Fri. the 17th.....So I guess I'm lowering the amount of value I'm placing on a life.....yuck.

                Can we all at least agree this is one giant crap sandwich that we're all being forced to eat?





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                Last edited by DrjonesUSA; 04-07-2020, 2:01 PM.

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                • #38
                  freedom-lover
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 553

                  Millions? Come on. 70K - 80K die each year from flu. Doesn't count cancer deaths, heart attacks, suicides, etc. Not to mention innocent unborn murdered.

                  It is just the freakin' flu, people.

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                  • #39
                    DrjonesUSA
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 4680

                    Originally posted by freedom-lover
                    Millions? Come on. 70K - 80K die each year from flu. Doesn't count cancer deaths, heart attacks, suicides, etc. Not to mention innocent unborn murdered.

                    It is just the freakin' flu, people.


                    After a couple years of COVID, THEN you can compare it to the flu.

                    Until then, any such comparisons are asinine as this is a brand NEW (hence "NOVEL") virus, and we have very minimal knowledge and zero definitive treatment protocol & such.

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                    • #40
                      sd_shooter
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 13137

                      Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
                      Serious question since these are precisely the numbers we are debating;

                      How many more dead would have been acceptable to you, in exchange for a reduction in economic damage?

                      Would you rather have had millions dead - including possibly your parents / anyone in your life that you care about over the age of 50 - and billions in economic damages, or tens of thousands dead with trillions in econ. losses?

                      How much is a human life worth to you?

                      It's kind of moot & maybe I'm a hypocrite because I'm now starting to think that maybe it is time to end the lockdowns....at least I don't think they should extend beyond maybe next Fri. the 17th.....So I guess I'm lowering the amount of value I'm placing on a life.....yuck.

                      Can we all at least agree this is one giant crap sandwich that we're all being forced to eat?

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                      Serious answer: when it's worse than the regular flu or something like H1N1 (the latter was also novel.)


                      Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
                      After a couple years of COVID, THEN you can compare it to the flu.

                      Until then, any such comparisons are asinine as this is a brand NEW (hence "NOVEL") virus, and we have very minimal knowledge and zero definitive treatment protocol & such.
                      Yes it's brand new.

                      But this time we also had vastly different circumstances than ever before:
                      - Media actively tearing down the President for the past 4 years. In their eyes he can't do single thing right, even during a crisis such as this.
                      - Medical/Pharmaceutal/Political establishment doing their best to crush any attempt to find a cure from available remedies
                      - Media participating in global 'narrative' (propaganda) from China on true nature of Covid. ("Humans can't catch it, no biggie." "OMG! Millions will certainly die!")
                      - Medical experts and model-makers using worst case assumptions to artificially inflate the numbers
                      - Medical experts clearly on the payroll of groups that have no interest in finding a cure outside a vaccine
                      - Liberal groups insisting on completely open borders
                      - MSM/Libs vilifying the administration for seeking to close borders to high risk countries (viruses, terrorists, you name it)

                      That's a lot to overcome.

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                      • #41
                        therealnickb
                        King- Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 8902

                        Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
                        Serious question since these are precisely the numbers we are debating;

                        How many more dead would have been acceptable to you, in exchange for a reduction in economic damage?

                        Would you rather have had millions dead - including possibly your parents / anyone in your life that you care about over the age of 50 - and billions in economic damages, or tens of thousands dead with trillions in econ. losses?

                        How much is a human life worth to you?

                        It's kind of moot & maybe I'm a hypocrite because I'm now starting to think that maybe it is time to end the lockdowns....at least I don't think they should extend beyond maybe next Fri. the 17th.....So I guess I'm lowering the amount of value I'm placing on a life.....yuck.

                        Can we all at least agree this is one giant crap sandwich that we're all being forced to eat?





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                        Apparently 50 million people a year is the limit before we panic.

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                        • #42
                          Senko
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 673

                          It was frustrating to the ones paying attention and asking questions like the several experts that were questioning the models from the beginning. There are more then one or two experts in the country in any field and we need to be open to different perspectives.

                          We were/are making decisions with faulty information.

                          NYC is using 60% less ICU beds and 80% less ventilators than they estimated they would need just last week.

                          Never forget the government lied to us about the public wearing masks. One can assume they did this to make sure the HC workers would have them, but they lied to control our behavior. Just like wildly high projected deaths to control behavior.
                          "Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters." -Daniel Webster

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                          • #43
                            tsmithson
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 1580

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                            • #44
                              smashycrashy
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 2999

                              One of the problems with catching it too late for detect, isolate and trace to be effective (lack of testing effort ensured that to be the case) but doing social isolation before it overwhelmed everything.. then there is going to be a whole cohort of people decrying the measure as too far. They will also push for restarting everything ASAP, if that happens we will just have a second wave.

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                              • #45
                                sd_shooter
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 13137

                                Still hoping for a real pandemic?

                                We have the drugs to stop this now. The few remaining #resist politicians will be brushed aside like cobwebs, nation to be healthy and back at work soon.

                                #maga

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