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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13115

    It's official: WuFlu to be about the same as a bad flu season

    Straight from the wildly pessimistic IHME model

    The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model lowered its projections of coronavirus deaths in the United States by August 4 to 81,776.


    On Monday the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) model cited by the White House Coronavirus Task Force lowered its projections of coronavirus deaths in the United States by August 4 to 81,776, down more than ten percent from the 93,765 projected on April 1, as Breitbart News reported on Wednesday.

    Before y'all get all wound up:
    - Yes, we should still 'social distance'
    - Yes, it's still a new virus
    - No, there's no vaccine

    Is it because the lockdowns worked? Don't know - but it's time for America to get back to work
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    CiaoKing
    Banned
    • Aug 2013
    • 205

    It's official: WuFlu to be about the same as a bad flu season

    Originally posted by sd_shooter
    Straight from the wildly pessimistic IHME model

    The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model lowered its projections of coronavirus deaths in the United States by August 4 to 81,776.





    Before y'all get all wound up:
    - Yes, we should still 'social distance'
    - Yes, it's still a new virus
    - No, there's no vaccine
    Even Dr. Fauci saw this and made this claim, ahead of time:




    Is it because the lockdowns worked? Don't know - but it's time for America to get back to work

    Not until you can



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    Last edited by CiaoKing; 04-06-2020, 1:14 PM.

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    • #3
      jglabe
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 415

      Originally posted by sd_shooter
      Straight from the wildly pessimistic IHME model

      The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model lowered its projections of coronavirus deaths in the United States by August 4 to 81,776.





      Before y'all get all wound up:
      - Yes, we should still 'social distance'
      - Yes, it's still a new virus
      - No, there's no vaccine

      Is it because the lockdowns worked? Don't know - but it's time for America to get back to work

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      • #4
        five.five-six
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2006
        • 34704

        Originally posted by sd_shooter
        Is it because the lockdowns worked? Don't know - but it's time for America to get back to work
        Ok, but do I still get my free $1,200 that I pay for?

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        • #5
          SWalt
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2012
          • 8103

          Wait wait wait........you mean to tell me they adjust models?

          Anyone wanna bet the model will be 100% accurate when all is said and done?
          ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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          • #6
            bootstrap
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 1239

            Hasn't Fauci made claims for a wide range of predictions?

            Coy little weasel makes so many claims that one ends up being right. He keeps his job and continues to roll in pharma bucks.

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            • #7
              SW1917
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 791

              Isn't this the group of modelers that everyone was carping on - ?????

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              • #8
                sakosf
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1573

                They don't really know.....time will tell

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                • #9
                  skirunman
                  Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 193

                  As discussed before, all models are flawed.

                  The problem is most of the models that seem to have been used to set public policy look like they were predicting worst case scenarios. Therefore, we may have ended up causing more harm than necessary to our economy versus a more nuanced approach. Anyway, this is water under the bridge. I do hope we come out with new guidelines by next week that does allow most of the economy to get back at it. Key to this would be data on the actual number of truly infected based on a randomized sample population study using the new antibody tests. These studies are underway.

                  IHME is continuing to refine this model, but based on trend data I'm seeing I believe their average is more likely a worst case and their best case will likely be closer to what they are modeling as best case (95% confidence interval) numbers. Here are the changes they made to the IHME model.

                  My current SWAG (scientific wild azz guess) is 30k-50k US deaths and 1k-1.5k CA deaths by June. Basically like a normal flu year. It will be interesting to see what the net number of increased deaths from flu+Covid-19 versus the flu alone end up at for 2020.
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                  • #10
                    jarhead714
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7673

                    All this event will show us is that we need new hospitals built and fully supplied and then we need to let them sit empty until we need them. Perfect business model.

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                    • #11
                      SAN compnerd
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 4722

                      Originally posted by jarhead714
                      All this event will show us is that we need new hospitals built and fully supplied and then we need to let them sit empty until we need them. Perfect business model.
                      The reality is not really far off, Governors need to stop reducing hospital beds to save costs. Both NY and CA have closed a significant amount of beds in the last decade.
                      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                      • #12
                        theLBC
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 6185

                        Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                        The reality is not really far off, Governors need to stop reducing hospital beds to save costs. Both NY and CA have closed a significant amount of beds in the last decade.
                        i heard many closed because they couldn't stay solvent under the ACA.
                        don't know how much of that is true.

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                        • #13
                          small hole shooter
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1183

                          Thanks for the info.

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                          • #14
                            Hoooper
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 2711

                            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                            The reality is not really far off, Governors need to stop reducing hospital beds to save costs. Both NY and CA have closed a significant amount of beds in the last decade.
                            Since when do governors set the number of beds in hospitals?

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                            • #15
                              SW1917
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 791

                              Not in Italy- we need to keep the perspective

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