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  • #76
    PandaLuv
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 641

    Originally posted by prc77
    you have an AK in your banner, and you said you have an AK in your safe, so why is a SAIGA "not your type"
    this thread is getting tiresome
    When I wanted an AK, I built an AK. When I wanted a handgun, I bought a handgun. I just want a shotgun, not an AK that shoots shotgun shells. Nothing wrong with it, just not my cup of tea.
    Молон Лабе
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    • #77
      Subotai
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2010
      • 11289

      Originally posted by PandaLuv
      Hmmm, what can you guys tell me about 870 police? What's so special? How much are they?

      I know I can google it but I love calgunners opinion.
      From what I understand they're made with some higher quality parts. Can't tell ya which. I would opt for the police model if you can afford it.
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      • #78
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        Originally posted by Javi
        Because this is SUPER satisfying:

        ^^^ This ^^^
        Originally posted by PandaLuv
        Hmmm, what can you guys tell me about 870 police? What's so special? How much are they?

        I know I can google it but I love calgunners opinion.
        The 870 is the 870 is the 870. Wingmaster, Express, Police.... they are all the same gun at the core they differ only in fit, furniture and finish. The Police model uses a milled steel extractor rather than MIM and there are a couple of springs inside that are different. The Police model is built on a controlled line in a secure facility within the plant. The Police model will set you back a couple of hundred dollars more than most other 870s but other than the cachet of the name, the finish and a couple of parts, it's an 870.

        If you want to have a tacticool gun and blast stuff, that's okay. If you want to have a gun that can be used to shoot clays or put game on the table, you can get that. Shotguns are extremely versatile platforms and, if you get into reloading, can be incredibly cheap to shoot.
        Last edited by BigDogatPlay; 01-25-2012, 4:21 PM.
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        • #79
          mrkam
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 636

          Originally posted by PandaLuv
          Hmmm, what can you guys tell me about 870 police? What's so special? How much are they?
          For price, http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...GA+18+BD+IC+PK
          or look for an 870 Police in the Marketplace.

          For exact differences, see below. The poster of that video basically says that the Express is great, and the Police is just a beefed up version. If that matters to you, then go for it. If you'd rather save the money, don't.

          CAUTION: Possible annoying music warning

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          • #80
            SDS-Ruger
            Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 237

            Originally posted by Shrubmaster
            Correction: you need a shotgun, long range bolt gun, semi auto rifle, handgun, and some form of .22

            There's simply no reason NOT to have a shotgun. There's $200 LEO trade in 870's all over the place. And the older 870's will last longer than you will.
            were do you find the police trade in 870's? Any in SD or LA

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            • #81
              XYZ
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 5481

              There's a CGN member that sells 870P trade-ins every couple of months. Just keep checking the commercial deals section.
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              • #82
                PandaLuv
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 641

                so big5 has mosberg500 combo(two barrels) for $260

                jesus christ, it's like 1/4 the price of my 1911.

                What can you guys tell me about mosberg?
                Why do you prefer them over remington 870s and bennellis novas? (except for the price) Can I mall ninja the mosberg 500 a little?
                Молон Лабе
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                • #83
                  sargenv
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4620

                  Benelli Nova, Mossy 500, Rem 870, Browning BPS.. all nice introductory level shotguns.. of the four, I own all but the Benelli.. all are pretty much beaters.. and they simply work.

                  The Mossy 500 with the two barrels is kind of nice, the one issue I have with the 500 is that whatever mag tube you have, that's all you will ever have.. there is no way to install an extended mag tube later.. You can with the 870, the BPS, and I think you can with the Nova.. it has to do with how the barrel mounts to the receiver.

                  The field division in my upcoming shotgun match is based on the Mossberg 500's 5+1 capacity.

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                  • #84
                    BigDogatPlay
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7362

                    There are tons of threads here about Mossberg 500 vs. 870. Search up a few of those and you'll see lots of opinions. That said I have owned several 870s over the years of different types, all kinds of Remington shotguns. I'm a Big Green kind of guy.... and one of my favorite shotguns in the safe is a 30 or so year old Mossberg 500. I have a couple of different barrels for it.

                    You can tacticool a Mossberg as much or as little as you like.

                    The Big 5 combo.... on the sporting barrel it is a fixed Modified choke. That will work for a variety of purposes but if you wanted to get deeper into clays or hunting a barrel capable of taking choke tubes is a must. Extra Mossberg barrels are usually pretty reasonable cost wise if you shop around a tad.

                    Originally posted by sargenv
                    The Mossy 500 with the two barrels is kind of nice, the one issue I have with the 500 is that whatever mag tube you have, that's all you will ever have.. there is no way to install an extended mag tube later.. You can with the 870, the BPS, and I think you can with the Nova.. it has to do with how the barrel mounts to the receiver.
                    Actually there is a way and it can be DIY. Brownells sells a kit with a different mag tube and barrel to get you to 7 +1 shots.

                    Last edited by BigDogatPlay; 01-25-2012, 6:16 PM.
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                    • #85
                      sargenv
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4620

                      that is basically swapping the magtube and barrel to the next model up.. unlike the other guns where you can put a +6 tube on an 870 and get 10+1 fairly quickly.. Like I said, of the four I suggested, I own three of them... the first sg I bought was a big-5 mossy combo from a friend.. only then they offered the hunting barrel with choke tubes..

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                      • #86
                        sounish
                        Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 188

                        Having a complete inventory of shotguns, rifles, handguns all mixed semi, bolt, single, pump, wheel makes you ready for any SHTF action coming to your city.

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                        • #87
                          PandaLuv
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 641

                          man, that kinda sucks that mosberg has only 5+1 capacity

                          but man, I don't wanna sell one of my handguns so I can buy an expensive one, that $260 combo is a such a great deal..

                          ah! I hate how i love guns.
                          Молон Лабе
                          I'd rather be carried by 6 than judged by 12

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                          • #88
                            mrkam
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 636

                            Originally posted by PandaLuv
                            What can you guys tell me about mosberg?
                            Why do you prefer them over remington 870s and bennellis novas? (except for the price) Can I mall ninja the mosberg 500 a little?
                            Mossberg's have a little bit more play in the forend. Some people are really annoyed by it, but I don't mind mine. If you have a pistol grip, you won't really be able to use the safety easily. I have a Hogue 12" LOP on mine and I love it over two different tactical pistol grips I tried.

                            You can mall ninja the 500 to the max. Just check out the shotgun picture thread I linked. One thing to be aware of is the Big 5 special. Sometimes they will have a Maverick 88 forend which is plastic directly molded onto the action tube bars, meaning you can't put any aftermarket forend on it.

                            As for the capacity, you can go for a 590A1 or any Mossberg that has this kind of mag tube cap (see below) and that will allow you to put an extension on it. If you get a Nordic Components +1 extension (which is one of the highest quality ones) and get an extended cap, it should put the extension right about the end of the barrel, and you should be able to barely squeeze two more rounds in, putting you at 7+1. However, that will run you around $110 IIRC.

                            Last edited by mrkam; 01-25-2012, 8:15 PM.

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                            • #89
                              Shrubmaster
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1359

                              Don't forget about the stevens 350.
                              WTB: Marlin 989 M2 stock (uncracked), and 989 M2 rifles
                              Thanks

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                              • #90
                                coy80176
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1917

                                Thought kills action...

                                Go for the mossberg combo, it's a solid platform, can be used for HD and for bustin' clays, all at a reasonable cost....and with the money saved you can get a bunch of shells for trigger time


                                "When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power... like God must feel when he's holding a gun." - Homer

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