How do I lock my shotgun while it's on the wall?

[repubconserv]

Quit trying to be a cool rambo and be a responsible gun owner, if CPS saw this situation they would likely take the kids out of the situation..

It sounds to me like he is being responsible. Locked gun in a locked room. Somehow people are getting all antsy just because he wants to mount it on his wall. If kids are as mischievous as you make them out to be, and CPS is a big brother figure watching your every move you better lock everything up that can be dangerous for children to have... knives, plastic bags, shovels, saws, shaving razors, and for good measure, wrap the kids in bubble wrap with helmets on and lock them in a padded room.

You give the rest of the gun owners out there a bad reputation AND you're putting your family at risk.

Oh get off it already. Mounting a gun on his wall (the gun itself is locked and the room it is in is locked) I think is tacky, but he wants to do it, and he IS being responsible about it. You could also argue that people who open carry give gun owners a bad rep, just because it scares the ignorant.

[Dexster]

Your statement lacks total logic. Open carry = someone is control of the firearm.

Mounting a firearm on a wall in a house with children where he stated before hand that he locks the ROOM not the fire arm. Kids are creative, expecially little boys. They will find a way to get their hands on the firearm even through a crappy door lock.

It should be stored out of sight and with a lock on it if children frequent the house.

[repubconserv]

Your statement lacks total logic. Open carry = someone is control of the firearm.

Mounting a firearm on a wall in a house with children where he stated before hand that he locks the ROOM not the fire arm. Kids are creative, expecially little boys. They will find a way to get their hands on the firearm even through a crappy door lock.

It should be stored out of sight and with a lock on it if children frequent the house.

Perhaps you should note that he is not looking to buy a DOOR lock for his room, but a gun lock for his gun. And if his room requires a key, I seriously doubt kids are going to bust through the door just to look at a gun.

Kids are creative. My niece did some finger painting the other day, and my 8 year old cousin built a tool box. That does not mean they are going to get past a locked door and a gun lock. And if those kids have mad lock picking skills... you better warn the neighbors.

And if you will look at the 2A forum you will see many people who believe that open carry is detrimental to gun community, despite you being in control. You are saying he gives gun owners a bad rep because he mounts a gun on a wall (again) behind a locked door, with a locked gun. They warn against UOC because it scares people. People on this thread are dumping on mounting a gun because it scares people. (despite Numerous safety precautions, the kids not living there and only being there for a few hours each day.)

Keeping a locked shotgun on on a wall behind a locked door, is out of sight. If they gonna pry enough to get into his locked room, what is to stop them from looking in a closet or under a bed?

where he stated before hand that he locks the ROOM not the fire arm

May I direct you attention to post #31, in which the OP clearly states that he Locks the firearm. What the heck, I'll quote it

I have the lock on. I put it after what you guys said, I carry both keys with me so no one can unlock while I'm not home. I'm painting the hooks all black soon so they don't look that fugly, I don't even like orange. lol

Perhaps reading before pulling a Joe Biden?

[TWoods450]

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[mtsul]

+1 an Wow people!! Hes not saying let's kill Jesus again! He said his door needs a key meaning that it's a real lock and if your so worried about people "knowing" he has a gun and breaking in to get it then what he's spost to put it in a locked case! (there crap even the nice ones you can cut into) power tools take the case! Some of us can't afford a safe thats even semi worth it! Idk he has a lock on it and the doors locked I mean it's more than fine! And even if the door was just locked (with a real key that was not left on sight) id be ok with it

Oh yea he also said it's unloaded so it's unloaded locked door and lock on the gun seems like enough!
And yes I know ammo is attached to the gun

It sounds to me like he is being responsible. Locked gun in a locked room. Somehow people are getting all antsy just because he wants to mount it on his wall. If kids are as mischievous as you make them out to be, and CPS is a big brother figure watching your every move you better lock everything up that can be dangerous for children to have... knives, plastic bags, shovels, saws, shaving razors, and for good measure, wrap the kids in bubble wrap with helmets on and lock them in a padded room.



Oh get off it already. Mounting a gun on his wall (the gun itself is locked and the room it is in is locked) I think is tacky, but he wants to do it, and he IS being responsible about it. You could also argue that people who open carry give gun owners a bad rep, just because it scares the ignorant.

[drkphibr]

Another solution of securing to the wall

Here's what my solution was:

http://www.thepiecekeeper.net/

I have pictures of how it looks in my closet if interested. Clean look, very functional. I also have a cable lock through the breech as this solution only secures the firearm to the wall, it doesn't prevent shells from being loaded into the tube, the forend/pump action or manipulating shotgun to fire the trigger. Stages of defense/safety and not the only means of home defense.

[solidstate]

Run a bike cable lock through the ejector and mag ports - then go around a stud or post in the wall. $12 ( Don't laugh, it will work)

[Agent Orange]

I bet your mom is pissed you drilled those holes in her wall.

Lmao.

...I'm only 19...

I'll bet you'll be surprised to hear that was obvious. They always are.

[thomashoward]

[QUOTE=repubconserv;5987067]

Kids are creative. My niece did some finger painting the other day, and my 8 year old cousin built a tool box. That does not mean they are going to get past a locked door and a gun lock. And if those kids have mad lock picking skills... you better warn the neighbors.



Someone should warn the neighbors...unless your kids are slow, by that age I was dismantling .22 rifles and tinkering with explosives (mildly)
Be surprised what you get with saltpeter,sulfur and charcoal. Road flares blow when your dad is coming and you try to stuff them into the dirt. Saltpeter,sugar and sulfur make a great stink bomb.
and yes I survived, graduated and was regular Army then married and raised 2 kids. They are 30 now and just coming clean with what they did when we weren't looking. Give them more credit than what they show you on the surface

[caoboy]

My nephew likes to touch my safe. Literally just place his hand on it and wait for me to notice what he's doing. He also likes to hang on the lock handle. He's 1.5 years old. He already knows he's not supposed to be around it, and he likes to push his boundaries.

Keep it locked up and out of sight.

If you feel you need it loaded, get a locking case for it. keep it under your bed, in the closet stuffed behind clothes, etc. Don't play stupid. Kids will get into anything they can, especially if they know they aren't supposed to touch it.

[meaty-btz]

All this lock the guns away stuff amazes me. What did children do to survive the past few centuries with firearms in the home. Unlocked with charges available.

Go back 30 years and you had kids with .22s and ammunition riding through town on their bikes without causing a ruckus. Same period of time you could drive up the local high school on a Monday and find every gun rack in the school loaded down with rifles and shotguns and ammunition.. the horror.

Somehow.. all these modern precautions and 18+ only, etc being recent precede generations that just can't be trusted around firearms. There were accidents in the past and there are accidents now. All these rules seem to not be stopping the accidents.

It seems everyone drank the liberal cool-aid regarding firearms. There are 6 year olds of forum members with their own .22 (in parental control of course). I just am missing one piece of the puzzle here...

[stitchnicklas]

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/23/shotgun-lock-and-wal.html

looks sweet

http://www.shotlock.com/Details.asp

[meaty-btz]

Hey, that actually seems pretty nifty. Reminds me of the old shotgun on the mantle home defense tool for generations.

[xrMike]

Oops misspelled thought k was missing.

http://www.shotlock.com/

An acquaintance has one of these and really likes it. He installed it behind some clothes hanging in the master bedroom closet. That way his shotgun is close by if he hears something in the house at night.

I was gonna get one until I read on their website that this rack won't fit guns with ghost ring sites (mine), so check the website to confirm compatibility before buying.

[judoguy]

If a kid saw that gun on the wall, which isn't impossible, he will know there is something cool behind that door. And if you forget to lock that door one day, which isn't impossible, the kid will check probably like he usually does knowing there's something cool behind that door. The kid gets in.

Who knows, maybe the kid will just poke at it or touch it.
But that curiosity and adrenaline will always fuel kid's minds. Don't underestimate kids, and the fact that there is the possibility of forgetting to lock the door or lock anything for that matter.

It's a scary thought.

Imho if your going to do this. At least do it out of sight. Closet or something.