870 steel extractor issue

[swifty]

Post #2 of this thread shows the beveled extractor.

[FatalKitty]

JD, how many broken extractor have you ever seen? I'm just curious why someone though a machined steel extractor was a better idea than the MIM... especially if they don't machine the steel extractor right.

[aippi]

I have never seen a MIM extractor that failed. I have never even seen one that became dull. I change them out on the custom builds because my weapons are built to the same specifications as the 870P and the P comes with a solid steel extractor.

You will read many post about this issue and guys saying they bought the P model because they are not going to have MIM parts in their weapon. Well, they are ignorant about the 870 because there are MIM parts in every 870. This means the Police and the Wingmaster.

[nomad05]

Post #2 of this thread shows the beveled extractor.

I thought #2 was the MIM version that's different than my extractor and not affected by this, right? If someone could post a picture I'd appreciate it so I don't need to buy a whole new extractor if I file down the wrong edge.

Glad I ordered some Cold Blue from Midway last night.

[FatalKitty]

the photo in #2 IS the MIM extractor, but you can clearly see the taper on the top edge of the extractor(top when the bolt an carrier is in the weapon)
this is what needs to be added to some of the steel extractors

the photo that was posted showing the modified steel extractor no longer works... I'll see if I can find one

[swifty]

I thought #2 was the MIM version that's different than my extractor and not affected by this, right? If someone could post a picture I'd appreciate it so I don't need to buy a whole new extractor if I file down the wrong edge.

The photo does show a MIM extractor, but the extractor is the same and the bevel is the same. Just use the photo in Post #2 and duplicate the bevel on your extractor.

[allenst65]

I'm wondering if there aren't several different extractor profiles in play here. From the MIM pic #2, you can see that the outside edge from the plunger out to the tip is not straight, therefore when top edge is beveled you end up with that five sided flat bevel.

Do all of the extractors, MIM or machined, have this outside curve regardless of the top bevel issue ?

I'm asking since I saw this thread and dug out my 870P Police Magnum which has been patiently waiting in the safe on a build project. I looked at the extractor and immediately thought I was in the same boat since I didn't see that bevel, but tracking down some info today, something isn't adding up. My 870P was bought used and has been in my possesion since June 2007, way before the election frenzy. My barrel code is AY which I think means it's a 2004 model.

Looking closely, I can see the entire outside surface is beveled, all the way down to the bottom. If the outside surface was curved like that MIM extractor, it is gone now. To add to the confusion, the front bevels on mine are nowhere near as pronounced and doesn't look very pointy or 'sharp' as on all these other pics. My receiver does have a line or scratch inside the receiver corresponding to the top rear of the extractor, so I'm not really sure what is the 'correct' extractor profile at this point. I'm thinking there are really quite a variety to be seen if you could compare them all over the years.

Here's mine ...

[nomad05]

I have my extractor tapered and drying, but I'm wondering something...

Mine has sharper edge than some of the other MIM ones depicted. You can see it in the gallery of photos I posted above. Could this sharp edge also contribute to scratching?

[aippi]

The main issue is the back of the extractor should be beveled and the top edge beveled to conform to the breech bolt. this stops it from scratching the inside of the receiver very deep, but yes, you can still get a light scratch.

I have also seen differences but they all work if like I stated above. I am also wondering if it comes down to the vendor on the solid steel ones. The MIM of course are molded so each is exactly the same. I see light scratches inside the receiver of those weapons with MIM extractors so this is not a major issue. A deep gouge is. I would venture to guess that anyone on this forum with an 870 will find a light striation mark on the inside of the reciever from the extractor.

The reason this became such an issue for me to post was to get some more calls in to get it resolved. If it took you 15 minutes to hit yours with a file to make it better then multiply that 150 times and I spent over 37 hours in my shop fixing a minor detail on a part that should have came to me perfect. That is one week of my work life wasted. The issue is resolved and the last orders have been perfect. I also bet it is a new vendor suplying these to Remington.

[nomad05]

I logged a support ticket w/ pictures on Remington's site a few days back when I realized I was affected, haven't heard a thing from them and my weapon is less than 30 days old.

Granted it was Thanksgiving last week, but still...

Thanks again for taking the time to reply JD.