870 steel extractor issue

[aippi]

If you have an 870 made in the past few years and have a solid steel extractor, the next time you clean it and have the breech bolt assembly out please check this. Look at your extractor and see if it is tappered. It should be tappered on the top to conform to the curve of the breech bolt. You will see what I am talking about the second you look at it. Next check the inside of your receiver and look for a scratch located at the back of the ejection port.

If you see this scratch your extractor may not be tappered correctly. You may see a light scratch cause by the slide but you can figure with part is causing it by the location of the scratch. I buy these 30 to 50 at a time and they have been comming to me squared off. I have to manually tapper them to prevent them from scratching the receiver. this takes time. I complain but they keep comming to me like this.

I am wondering how many guys have this issue, so I asking.

This started back during the Obama gun rush and has not been corrected. If you find the issue on your weapon a call to Remington about the scratch and requesting the correct extractor get you a new one that is correctly tappered. Not sure as I can seem to get one made correctly and I buy a couple of hundred a year. This is not an issue with the MIM extractors only the solid steel ones.

[axhoaxho]

Thanks for the heads-up,

I took a quick look of one of my 870's, and snapped a quick picture of it.

By the green arrow of the picture below, is it the tappered part that you mentioned?

With best regards,

[CDMJ]

JD, I pulled all my 870's and my one 1100 including my project gun which has the extractor you sent me a few weeks back and none of them have this issue.

[aippi]

Axhoaxho - you have the MIM the extractor which is not an issue. You can tell the MIM because of the raised line across it. The solid steel extractor does not have that. But yes, that is why the bevel is there. Since MIM Extractors are molded they are perfect every time. Great close up picture.

CDM - the one you got from me is prefect because I picked through about 30 of them and sent you the best one. Thanks for checking your other weapons.

[Mug]

FYI, the IAC Hawk 982 steel extractor has the chamfered edge.

I used a 32X jewelers loop and an old cellphone for the shot:

[aippi]

Thanks Mug, I have never seen a Hawk and it is good to know they come with a correct Extractor. Remington should be asshamed ( mispelling was deliberate) that a clone of their model is coming with a correct part and they are sending the mess they are sending me. I spent over $80,000 in parts alone at Remington last year and I can't get a straight answer about this issue. I love it that I now have this info to throw in their face that a nock off clone has the right part in it.

[FatalKitty]

AIPPI, looks like my remington express 7 shot game with a MIM extractor.
the 8 shot did not, but it appears the extractor has the correct taper.

thanks for the heads up

[aippi]

Most will if older then a year or so. The issue started when the gun world went nuts over Obama and Remington as was all the manufacturers where putting weapons out as fast as they could. However Remington has not corrected it.

If a guys finds one, he simply breaks the weapon down removes it and takes a small file or dremil and corrects it. 15 minutes total time. My issue is that building or upgrading a few hundred of these weapons a year means I will spend about 24 to 30 hours just correcting this one small issue when I should not have to. So for me it is a big deal. Knowing how many are out there and that they are damaging the inside of the receiver will give me more fuel to gripe at Remington over.

If someone has one of these squared off extractors and needs to see how to get it out just go to www.aiptacitcal.com and click on the "HOW to Video" Extractor and take it out. Look that the tappers on the extractors on this thread and take a small file and do that. Re-install as in the video. The issue is over for you. As for me, I am just getting started with my complaints. I have better things to do then spend 24 to 30 hours a year modifying a part that should have come to me correct.

[DevilDawgJJ]

Had to take a look at mine. It's the MIM extractor. I bought my Express three weeks ago.

Thanks for the intel....


Semper Fi

[SPE]

Hi JD,

Here is the extractor on my Tactical I that I purchased from you in March 2009--it doesn't look like the top edge of the extractor has been tapered, and I see that it has worn a relatively deep gouge inside of the receiver.

Should I just modify the extractor, or should I be concerned about the receiver?

[aippi]

SPE - take it out according to the video and take the edge off with a small file. Degrease the scatch and dab it with some cold blue. Most 870's will get a light scratch there in normal use but a deep one is caused by the extractor.

This is how long the issue has been going on. I picked up on the issue shortly after that. I started getting some in that were OK then they got sloppy again. I now check every part Remington sends me and they hate it when I call 'cause I pitch a B***H about stuff like this. Some of you might remember my post about "Quality Control" during all that mess back then. This issue has gone on to long.

SPE E-mail me to the e-mail on my web site and I will reimburse you for the time and Cold Blue. If you are not comfortable doing this I will send you one and you can install it by watching the video. It is easy.

[Mug]

By my count there are at least 6 chamfered edges on the IAC Hawk 982 extractor, no wonder Remington went to MIM... That's a lot of machining for such a small, but extremely crucial part.

[SPE]

Hi JD,

No worries, I need to clean the gun anyway and install a SureFire fore-end, so this weekend I'll pop out the extractor and file it down--good opportunity to take it apart and learn more about the gun. I need to get some Cold Blue anyway, so I'll pick some up and cover the scratch.

Thanks,

Steve

SPE - take it out according to the video and take the edge off with a small file. Degrease the scratch and dab it with some cold blue. Most 870's will get a light scratch there in normal use but a deep one is caused by the extractor.

This is how long the issue has been going on. I picked up on the issue shortly after that. I started getting some in that were OK then they got sloppy again. I now check every part Remington sends me and they hate it when I call 'cause I pitch a B***H about stuff like this. Some of you might remember my post about "Quality Control" during all that mess back then. This issue has gone on to long.

SPE E-mail me to the e-mail on my web site and I will reimburse you for the time and Cold Blue. If you are not comfortable doing this I will send you one and you can install it by watching the video. It is easy.

[Killawhale415]

You guys need to shoot your shotguns more, your bolts look so new!

[Skidmark]

Tappered? Or tapered? Or chamfered?

A taper is a uniformly changing dimension, like an ice cream cone.
A chamfer is an angled break applied to a sharp edge, which has the effect of smoothing that edge and reducing stress risers.

I think what JD is talking about is a missing chamfer on the extractor.