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[SDM44]

Is there a real difference between the regular VCS barrel mod and the VCS FliteControl Optimized barrel mod?

I recently picked up a few cases of low recoil 8-pellet Federal FliteControl 00 buckshot and I plan to use it the majority of the time through my shotguns, and that's what will stay loaded for HD. However, I also want to use up my low recoil Fiocchi 00 buchshot and Winchester Super X 00 buckshot at the range for practice through the same shotguns, along with low recoil Federal TruBall slugs, Fiocchi rifled slugs, and Remington rifled slugs.

Is the VCS FliteControl Optimized barrel mod only intended to use Federal FliteControl shells and nothing else through your gun? I'm not really concerned about patterning with the Fiocchi and Winchester buckshot, but I don't want to damage or put any undue stress through the barrel with non-FliteControl shells.

[BOBGBA]

This is interesting. The shotgun I dropped off in Vegas and recently got back is shooting very well.
It is a Winchester 20ga Defender made in the US. So it has a 18" barrel and 6 round tube.
This last Sunday I did two rounds of 16 yard trap using 1300fps steel #7 shot. It is shooting so tight that I'm going to have to start at 17 or 18 yards.
Recoil with 3" #2 steel is minimal.
While this is my 5th Vang Comp barrel, it is only my second 20 ga.
The benefit of their work is that you get tight patterns and reduced recoil regardless of ammo.
My Vang Comp 870 has less recoil than a Versa Max Tactical Competition with an extended ported choke that I sold. I loved that shotgun but it recoiled more and was less useful than my Vang Comps.

Sounds pretty awesome, you're making me thinking about doing something like this.

[BOBGBA]

I have a few questions for those of you in the know...


Does the barrel need to be a fixed choke barrel?

Does the backbore open up the ID of the barrel (12 gauge) form the forward end of the forcing cone forward to something like .729 or .730?

Has anyone here had this done to a barrel that has choke tubes?

If it can be done on a barrel with choke tubes, is there less of a benefit of having the work done?

I didn't see anything on their website regarding barrels with removable chokes.

[shovelon]

I thought HD barrels were for the most part cylinder. Would screw in chokes mess with the process?

[BOBGBA]

I thought HD barrels were for the most part cylinder. Would screw in chokes mess with the process?

That's why I'm asking. Currently, I don't really have a shotgun barrel that I'd like to try this out on.

But, if I come across the right barrel or shotgun, I might pick it up.

Just want to make sure I don't acquire something that won't work.

[eddy 600]

That's why I'm asking. Currently, I don't really have a shotgun barrel that I'd like to try this out on.

But, if I come across the right barrel or shotgun, I might pick it up.

Just want to make sure I don't acquire something that won't work.

The old 870 barrels that come with the 2.75in receivers are to thin for the process

[W.R.Buchanan]

Is there a real difference between the regular VCS barrel mod and the VCS FliteControl Optimized barrel mod?

I recently picked up a few cases of low recoil 8-pellet Federal FliteControl 00 buckshot and I plan to use it the majority of the time through my shotguns, and that's what will stay loaded for HD. However, I also want to use up my low recoil Fiocchi 00 buchshot and Winchester Super X 00 buckshot at the range for practice through the same shotguns, along with low recoil Federal TruBall slugs, Fiocchi rifled slugs, and Remington rifled slugs.

Is the VCS FliteControl Optimized barrel mod only intended to use Federal FliteControl shells and nothing else through your gun? I'm not really concerned about patterning with the Fiocchi and Winchester buckshot, but I don't want to damage or put any undue stress through the barrel with non-FliteControl shells.

Don't worry about it, it will shoot anything better than it did before.

Randy

[W.R.Buchanan]

BOBGBA: I have several barrels with various degrees of Vang Comping done.

2 barrels have the whole thing done IE: forcing cone, back boring, porting, and then the forward 2" of the barrels are tapered back down to .729. The constriction on the muzzle is between IC and Mod Choke IE: .015 choke or .715

I have another barrel that has the forcing cone done, no Back Bore, no Ports and then threaded for Rem Chokes. I got it done that way because I use a Rifled Choke Tube in that gun as well as IC and MOD choke tubes for 3 gun shoots. I shoot slugs in that barrel so I didn't want the slug flopping around in an enlarged bore before it got to the Rifled Choke Tube.. I'm going to Port that Barrel, and would have got it done, but the work was done while I stood there and watched them do it, and I forgot to tell them to Port it.!

That barrel works well for what I do with it.

Keep in mind that the barrels with the full Treatment shoot everything well including slugs and here's a group I shot at Front Sight at 50 yards with my 20" gun. They shoot Buckshot exceptionally well, and both of mine do <7" at 25 yards !

Randy

[M1XdColt]

Man... I been thinking of going through Vang also.. but I have a local Smith that will do the porting for me. I'm thinking more back on the barrel, since my 18.5 is threaded for choke and it has the heat shield. Somewhere around where the barrel and mag tube meets at the distance 🤔

[W.R.Buchanan]

M1X as long as the Porting is behind the Choke of the barrel it will be fine However it needs to start just behind the Choke Tube Threads not much farther.

The point of the Porting is to relieve pressure just before the pay load goes thru the choke. It essentially is coasting thru the Choke, as opposed to being jammed into the choke. That way the pattern stays tight.

Randy

[JagerDog]

That's why I'm asking. Currently, I don't really have a shotgun barrel that I'd like to try this out on.

But, if I come across the right barrel or shotgun, I might pick it up.

Just want to make sure I don't acquire something that won't work.

The old 870 barrels that come with the 2.75in receivers are to thin for the process

Interesting. I wouldn't have thought that.

I have a Garcia era Beretta O/U that barrels were too thin for most choke tubes. Briley put their thinwall chokes in OK.

I wanna say 0.805 was minimum OD for tru-choke.

[BOBGBA]

Interesting. I wouldn't have thought that.

I have a Garcia era Beretta O/U that barrels were too thin for most choke tubes. Briley put their thinwall chokes in OK.

I wanna say 0.805 was minimum OD for tru-choke.

Looks like you are spot on.

The only place I've seen (or maybe the only place I remember seeing) the barrel diameter specs for choke tube installation:

Bob Day's website https://www.americhoke.com/

Picture below is from his site.

Min barrel diameter for choke tubes from americhoke.JPG

[JagerDog]

Looks like you are spot on.

The only place I've seen (or maybe the only place I remember seeing) the barrel diameter specs for choke tube installation:

Bob Day's website https://www.americhoke.com/

Picture below is from his site.

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Same or similar to what I found scouring the interweb a decade plus ago or so. My Beretta BL2 was like 0.802.

I don't know the specs on Briley thinwall vs, Truchoke thinwall, but they did it after confirming via phone that they could. I did speak to a truchoke vendor (may have been Bob Day) and they said it would imprint the threads on the OD.

But these were exceptionally thin barrels compared to most. I'd be surprised that any Remington would be as thin.

It did turn my BL2 from M/F that really shot F/XF into a useful field gun.

[DProm]

Update with my Vangcomp turn around time. Please keep in mind that this is just for the Vangcomp Porting job only, nothing else.

02/08/24 - shipped barrel to vangcomp (dropped off to UPS)
02/09/24 - barrel delivered to Vangcomp
02/12/24 - order updated with notes that barrel has been received.
02/29/24 - Notifcation from UPS of incoming shipment from Vangcomp.
Later that evening an order update from Vangcomp of Barrel port job completed and shipped via UPS.

03/01/24 - Package delivered notification at my property and it was from Vangcomp. My ported barrel "only" and the VangComp detachable side shell carrier kit.

Total turnaround time was under 30 days from their estimated 30-60 days.



Now to get my 590a1 cerakoted.

[enorbit3]

Something is off with your dates. But if it's only 30 days for a port job I may send them my barrel...