Tactical Shotgun Recommendations

[W.R.Buchanan]

Good for you that your area isn’t affected by covid.

But are you trying to say that 200k Americans dying from covid19 is just some type of hoax invented for political purposes ? Or did I misunderstand

Several of my colleagues have had family members pass because of it, and I have had several colleagues who got a bad case. It hits home hard when it’s someone you know, and I hope you are able to continue not experiencing that

Prepare for Rant!

I'm not too worried about it since I live 60 miles North of LA County. And with all the Hanky Panky going on with Covid Numbers, it's more like 120,000 total from the actual disease. Wait til they start counting Votes?

LA Allowed Riots and Looting and large BLM crowds to gather, and then locked everything down when cases spiked. But wouldn't let people go to church? WTF?

Ventura County was forced to close down even though in the 7 months this has been going on, there as has been 132 deaths out of 850,000 people. And recently it was found that of the 132 deaths about 40 were Covid addons, meaning the person died in a car wreck or something else, but the ER doctor was pressured to add Covid as a cause so they could get more Federal Funding!!! Phoney numbers so you would think it is worse than it is. Democrats in action once again. They caused it, and we are suffering for it.

The real number is more like 85 out of 850K which works out to 1 in 10,000.That's .0001% All that have died had underlying problems that Covid exacerbated, because that's the way that the Chinese Military "Engineered it" in the Wuhan Lab! Did you see the Chinese Doctor who worked there that escaped and is exposing it? Her Parents didn't make it out!

I am out in public every day, and I talk to lots of people. I have not met one person who has seen Covid in person. Everyone thinks it is Political BS blown out of proportion so you will think Trump is the cause and vote for Democrats.

Don't be a Fool, and learn to tell when people are lying to you. There are books on the subject you can read! And it's not when CNN tells you someone is lying, there are real live tells.

California is completely ran by Democrats and if there's a problem here is is a Management Problem! What about fires? Nothing wrong there, is there? Have you tried to get Fire Insurance lately You can see for yourself..

I've been watching the Tour De France Bicycle Race for the last 2 weeks as it wound it's way thru the Mountains and Forests of France. I have not seen one burnt spot yet and they have more forests than the West Coast has. But they actually take care of them! Unlike us. WE have "Environmentalists instead who don't do anything but talk and sue people.

No, it's all about the Election. Notice, Justice Ginsburg passed Friday? Did you also notice that her dying wish to her Grand Daughter which was trotted out immediately, was that her spot on the Court wasn't given out by this President? Sorry for her passing, but that is pure Bull**** cooked up by Democrats to pull at the heartstrings of people and sway the vote.

Hey sorry for the rant but I feel very strongly about this crap!!! and that is putting it mildly. I am sick of being lied to by Politicians and that means ALL Politicians !!!

Many People are here asking about what gun to buy to protect themselves, because of what they are seeing on the Nightly News. Do you think the Gun Manufacturers are behind this?

The Democrats are threatening to start a Civil War over this Election. People should be concerned, but I say bring it on, because I know for a fact, that they will lose bloody. Except their leaders like Nancy and Chuck and Hildegard and the Obamas will not feel it in the slightest.

In the end they won't do anything because they are cowards.

Sick of being used by Politicians yet?

Randy

[200Apples]

Tactical Shotgun Recommendations

And now for something different...


The Remington 1100, Texas Tactical Edition.

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1980s vintage 1100 - Remington competition carrier - Wilson Combat single-shot magazine extension - Brownells combat bolt handle

This shotgun will soon get sling swivels and sling

[SandHill]

OP, I am in the KISS camp, which I think means a pump. I ma sure there are many modern semi's up to the task as long as you confirma ammo compatibility, but the versatility of the pump still makes it the superior choice in my view.

Which pump? I would say to get a well proven design that has been around for years and tested through millions of units. The two most often mentioned in that category are the Mossberg 500 in it's many variations, and the Remington 870.

Remingtons have the edge in terms of overall ruggedness when using the gun for purposes for which it was technically not intended due to the steel receiver. For example, if you need to use your shotgun as a club to beat in an assailants skull because because you ran out of ammo, and then miraculously discover more ammo in time for the second wave, Remington is what you want. But Reminton's build quality has suffered in recent years, so look for an old one, ideally a Police Magnum.

Mossberg's build quality has held up better and in my book gets the nod for that reason if you are buying new. I think any of them will do fine, but I think the basic 500 combo with two barrels is the best value. I would be fine with a Maverick 88 if that was all I could find.

I used a Mossberg 500 as main HD weapon for many years. I have moved to a Winchester Defender for HD duty due to the larger magazine and faster, smoother action. If it were not available I would be happy going back to Mossberg. Winchesters pumps are another case of declining build quality in recent examples, so definitely look for an old one if going that direction. I have two that I got off Gunbroker not that many years ago for $200 each, in excellent, well broken in condition. No idea what they go for now.

[Rorge Retson]

Beretta 1301 please

Some good choices:
Beretta 1301 Tactical

This.

Semiautos today are just as reliable as pumps. Additionally, the actions absorb a good amount of recoil so they are much more pleasant to shoot than a pump.

Because of this, they are much more likely to be practiced with – and therefore used by – women, and men who are sensitive to recoil.

If there ever is an issue, you can manipulate the action on a semiauto just like you can a pump gun.

There is no reason to go with a pump nowadays unless you really, really enjoy the abuse they hand out.

[Romeo_alpha01]

Benelli M3 Super 90. It can pump and semi.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I feel better now:

But I have to disagree with the assessment that SA's have less Recoil than Pumps.

First; which SA's?

I've shot alot of them and see very little difference in any of them. This is a totally subjective point, because it all comes down to "Perceived Recoil", which is what you think you felt.

A slower but longer push will feel like less recoil than a quicker sharper impulse even though they both generate the same 15 ftlbs of recoil. (Standard 12 ga. recoil)

Second; My Vang Comped M500's both have less recoil than my A5 due to the longer forcing cone, back boring and porting.IE: slower longer push.

However once you understand how to mount the gun and get a proper cheek weld every time, the Recoil no longer becomes an issue. There is so little difference it makes no matter in the manipulation and shooting of the gun.

Third: Pumps are simply more reliable than SA's due to the lack of variables that can cause malfunctions. Pumps don't have gas systems of any kind. They are strictly Mechanical.

Understanding how to fix the gun when it malfunctions,,, (and they all do!!!) is the key to success with either system and may end up saving your life.

This brings into the discussion,,, Training !

Without proper training, neither system is optimum.

With proper training,,, either is optimum!

Chew on that?

Randy

[Killer Bee]

I'm comfortable with any of these

[BajaJames83]

870
If you want ARGO get a Remington V3 or Versamax

[Munny$hot]

IMHO A Mossberg 500 has the easiest safety to operate with either hand, but of want a pistol grip a Maverick or 870 maybe a better choice. If you want a 870 the older ones seem to be better made.

[tanks]

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But I have to disagree with the assessment that SA's have less Recoil than Pumps.
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I'll say it really does not make ANY difference in regards to recoil if one trains.

Due to shooting big bores I am pretty recoil tolerant. That being said I got into shotguns towards the end of May. First session I shot a couple of hundred shells and the next day I actually had some slight soreness on my shoulder. No pain, or bruising, but it was telling me this was new. Kind of like working out with weights after taking a break.

Based on the number of flats I have gone through since then I have shot 7,500 shells through a SxS (1,000) and an O/U (6,500). I can go and have a practice session of 5-600 shells and not feel it at all.

So, it is just a matter of getting used to it.

[elSquid]

Based on the number of flats I have gone through since then I have shot 7,500 shells through a SxS (1,000) and an O/U (6,500). I can go and have a practice session of 5-600 shells and not feel it at all.

So, it is just a matter of getting used to it.

[naz]

I'm comfortable with any of these

Nice!

Just for the OPs benefit, got to pin the stocks, because telescoping stock + pistol grip shotgun = AW in CA

[SVGUY]

If you can get a used Rem 870 Police Magnum (Pump). These were issued to LE, and have been well broken in. I bought one and shot couple of box of slugs and 00 Buck in Northern Nevada at a friends ranch. The racking was smooth. You better figure out where you can actually try and shoot if your going to buy one. Kick isn't too bad and was able to train with friends who were more experienced than myself. I would say Remington and Mossberg are you best picks. Be sure to get (1) Ghost Ring sights installed if you can instead of a bead sight and (2) Bandolier belt for extra ammo. (see War Wagon post).

[Killer Bee]

Nice!

Just for the OPs benefit, got to pin the stocks, because telescoping stock + pistol grip shotgun = AW in CA

thank you and thank you for sharing for those not aware

good news is they're in the right position to go to work

[SmokeTheClay]

As an 870 owner, I can say that has never happened to me.