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Old 06-21-2012, 12:57 PM
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Well sort of..... There has been a lot of questions asked who exactly supplies/makes PSA's parts, so I'm listing what I believe is correct. A lot of comparison has been done with known parts markings, machine techniques, and designs. The bolt/carrier and hammer forged barrels have been confirmed by PSA. Although PSA is a parts assembler like almost all of the AR companies including the so called "Top Tiered" group. From the list you'll find high quality manufactures that PSA uses/may have used in the past.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/

Bolt/Carriers: Tool Craft (military contracted) Confirmed by PSA (http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.ht...f=301&t=193464) http://www.toolcraftinc.com/

Lower parts kits: L.W. Schneider (military contracted) http://www.lwschneider.com/
See post 16: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a.../t-566740.html
LPK info originally from here: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=71064

Hammer forged 4150 1/7 barrels: FN (military contracted) (confirmed by PSA): http://www.fnmfg.com/capabilities/Gun%20Barrels/

Chrome moly 4150 1/7 barrels: Now also made by FN (stated on PSA's spec of the barrel/upper)

PSA's barrels definitely not DPMS confirmed by PSA post #16 lol http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=586274

Forged lowers: Forging? machined by Aero Precision Inc sorry no web site

Forged Uppers: Anchor Harvey Aluminum Forging/splintered A (used by Colt etc) more than likely machined by Aero Precision http://www.anchorharvey.com/?gclid=C...FQxshwodCUrq1A

P-Tac: uppers, LPKs, BCGs, parts kit (Practical Tactical) not affiliated with PSA, but PSA is the only direct vendor of their parts.

PSA Fredom: uppers (PSA lower end/budget parts) No specs at this time

***New update as of June 05 2016 PSA is making all their own barrels for their kits/rifles except for their CHF which is still made by FN***

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good stuff!
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PSA is a great company and they've been kicking butt of late with all the demand in this election cycle and zombie hysteria

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FN makes the PSA bolts?
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This is a relief as i just bought a PSA complete rifle. I guess everyone's recommendations were with good reason
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The chrome moly barrels are confirmed by PSA to be Wilson Arms. The answer is in their subsection somewhere.
Cliff notes: Someone asked who made them, I said I think it is Wilson Arms, PSA said yes.

I remember seeing something about the LPKs too, though, not on Calguns.
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Thank the Gods. The price for my upper half was so low, I was afraid it was made in a sweatshop by poor Malaysian children. Except for my hammer-forged barrel which of course is made by FN.
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The chrome moly barrels are confirmed by PSA to be Wilson Arms. The answer is in their subsection somewhere.
Cliff notes: Someone asked who made them, I said I think it is Wilson Arms, PSA said yes.

I remember seeing something about the LPKs too, though, not on Calguns.
Awesome, Ill update this post...

I found this on the LPKs: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a.../t-566740.html

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Interesting info, I would be curious to see a comparison between suppliers from PSA, BCM, and Spikes.
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Haha bcm won't say ..
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Sweet! Thanks for the info. This post probably scored another customer for PSA. With such quality manufacturers, I think I'll skip BCM and go with PSA. You just saved me about $400.
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Excellent post. Love my PSA barreled upper!
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:18 PM
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And a summer special... free shipping on everything!
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There was a post a week or so ago about PSA poorly packaging items for shipment. I have to say the last box I got from them was packed very well. New loyal customer.
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Awesome, Ill update this post...

I found this on the LPKs: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a.../t-566740.html
I guess it was here. I thought I remembered Chaos posting something about the LPKs.

Here's the thread about the Wilson barrels: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=500644

I give kudos to PSA for actually stating what parts they use instead of saying "we won't tell you what you are paying for."
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We can't/won't disclose who makes our components for us (unless otherwise noted on product description).

With that being said, all of our components are made for us in the U.S. by American workers. Our products come with a lifetime warranty against defects. If you encounter a problem all you need to do is contact our CS dept. and we will take care of the rest.
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Haha bcm won't say ..
Correct. When you are trying to build a brand name for yourself, you don't list where parts come from.

With that said, BCM has lots of things made for them (not just buying off the shelf product).



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My new M4 PSA upper is awesome. Fast shipment, for the quality you can't beat the $299 price.
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You know, I wish I had know about PSA before I bought my BCM upper 2 years ago. My BCM upper is awesome but it did cost me. PSA looks to be the same quality as BCM but at a cheaper price.
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Cool , I got the PSA FN mid length upper. For my aero lower with PSA lpk. For my build . So I guess I have a complete PSA rifle thanks for the info.

So far Im very happy with my build its functions awesome and I shoot wolf ammo most of the time . And I get trigger happy with my featureless build and standard size mags. And no problem yet. Mine was packed very well.
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You know, I wish I had know about PSA before I bought my BCM upper 2 years ago. My BCM upper is awesome but it did cost me. PSA looks to be the same quality as BCM but at a cheaper price.
I don't think PSA was selling rifles/uppers 2 years ago. I know they weren't when I bought my BCM. At the time BCM was what I considered the best value. Now, IMO, it's PSA, which is why I bought my wife's rifle from them.
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You know, I wish I had know about PSA before I bought my BCM upper 2 years ago. My BCM upper is awesome but it did cost me. PSA looks to be the same quality as BCM but at a cheaper price.
amen. but i dont really regret my BCM upper either, it is a very nice quality upper and ive been happy with it, but yes it was a pretty penny.
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I'm curious as to who makes their buffers
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I can tell you I have a lot of AR's, and a majority are PSA because of their quality.
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I did not do the leg work the LPKs.

I got the information from here:
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=71064

But I did confirm that parts of my LPKs do have the boxed S for L.W. Schneider.
On page 2 PSA says that they do not rebag someone elses LPK that they assemble it themselves. So maybe it should be noted that the FCG is L.W. Schneider?

I did find the part that the the new ALG Geissele triggers have the same boxed S marks. Showing that these are high quality parts...


Whoever makes the rest of the parts of the LPK does a good job, they are top notch.
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loving the "inside" info

really considering an upper from them
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Im researching building a first AR so this is good info. Plus free shipping and no tax! Though i ordered some defensive ammo from them and it took over a week for them to finally ship the order...
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We can't/won't disclose who makes our components for us (unless otherwise noted on product description).

With that being said, all of our components are made for us in the U.S. by American workers. Our products come with a lifetime warranty against defects. If you encounter a problem all you need to do is contact our CS dept. and we will take care of the rest.
Good to know, especially these days.
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Except for my hammer-forged barrel which of course is made by FN.
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I have an all PSA rifle. Didn't plan it that way but they were able to deliver when others weren't. Hammer forged 16" midi. I've been really happy with it.
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PSA is GTG -

Who gives a crap where their supplies come from -

And what kind of nerdjerk needs to post the info...?
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Companies change suppliers so don't bank on anything you read here but I agree with the above post, why post such a topic? How would you like it if someone did something similar about you or your company?
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On page 2 PSA says that they do not rebag someone elses LPK that they assemble it themselves. So maybe it should be noted that the FCG is L.W. Schneider?
Chaos47, Thanks for the update. In the beginning PSA stated their LPKs where US made by a Mil-Spec company that supplied parts to big name manufactures such as FN, S&W etc and the finish work was done by PSA near/or at their location. The [S] markings on the hammer is enough to lean towards the info being correct, but with PSA taking the SOP "We can't deny or acknowledge anything" stance it the best we got. Although it is possible that PSA does buy separate parts from different manufactures and/or buys all the parts in bulk from a single manufacture while they assemble the pieces together themselves into kits is very likely.

Thanks for everyone input/help in getting things sorted out. Now to start concocting my PSA Kool-Aide which will propel PSA to the top of the "AR Tier" Soon a large horde of loyal following will start to form, who will upon a whim internet bully and lay down a key board smackdown to anyone who favors a different companies product. PSA's new company slogan "Build a top notch quality rig and still have enough munny to shoot the dang thing"
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Now to start concocting my PSA Kool-Aide which will propel PSA to the top of the "AR Tier" Soon a large horde of loyal following will start to form, who will upon a whim internet bully and lay down a key board smackdown to anyone who favors a different companies product. PSA's new company slogan "Build a top notch quality rig and still have enough munny to shoot the dang thing"
Don't do that! The uppers won't be that cheap then
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Re HVAC carrier trane York all have the different mfg labels on components. Ie robertshaw gas valve. Icm control board. Lau blower. Fasco inducer motor. Ge or a.o. smith motor. Really what difference. Does it make? Inquiring minds wanna know? Why hide suppliers? Really? Why is the arms industry special?
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PSA is GTG -

Who gives a crap where their supplies come from -

And what kind of nerdjerk needs to post the info...?
Who gives a crap? Anyone who want to make an informed decision, is going to invest a significant amount of money into a rifle and wants to get a quality build that rivals or equals some of the bigger names in AR companies.

Who needs/why is this info posted. If you read the first sentence it clearly states "well sort of" which is safe to assume may or may not be correct. The only vendors are verified are the ones PSA has confirmed.

PSA's stance hasn't changed on disclosing their vendors which they have a valid reason. By posting this thread is no disrespect to PSA in anyway and from the reply post I'm confident PSA will have a lot more business generated from it. If at anytime PSA wants me to take down this post I have because it hurts their reputation/sales I'll be more than happy to do so.
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I don't see why the post should be taken down. But that is cool that you will if PSA wants it to.

None of this information is new it can all be gleamed from a couple google searches. But it is cool to have it all in one place.

So far all their suppliers are top notch, if anything this gives them a good foundation. To build upon their already great reputation.
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