.22 for defense

[44fred]

I'm sure you would agree my sling shot is less effective than your 22. I'm sure you would not me let shoot you with it either.
What's your point?

[themood]

Firing warning shots is a no-no.

Speak for yourself. The goal is to convince them to leave my house. If they realize the homeowner is home and armed, they are going to scoot. If they decide to come into the bedroom then there will not be another warning shot.

[desertexplore]

I don't think anybody is arguing the fact that 22's can kill.
When it comes to a "defensive" round you want to end the threat NOW, not on the 25th shot, but the first.
We are talking about using a 22 as a defense round, not trying to ask if it can kill. If you are defending using a 22lr for defense over larger calibers, I guess we just cant get through to you. Go ahead and use it. Just be sure and tell that bad guy who is trying to kill you with his 45ACP to stand still so you can pump several rounds into him and wait for the results.
I'm done.

Whoa bro, coming on me a little too strong? I am a 9mm guy and not pushing the .22 agenda here. I am just saying that it could work and if you can unleash a storm of .22, more power to you.

Relax bro, I'm on your side.

[DinoPJR]

one 22 to the head and its done.

[44fred]

I guess I can come on a little strong sometimes. Sorry about that.
I'm pretty passionate about this kind of thing. On an open forum where you have people seeking advise about defense guns and calibers, I don't want to mis lead anybody.
Firing warning shots and thinking you are going to control the situation is a little neive as well. Things rarely turn out the way we plan, we must adapt. We can't choose who is going to break into your home.
In 1980 my parents were involved in a pretty scary situation. Someone was knocking on the service porch door on the side of the house in the middle of the night. To get access to the door, this guy had to get over their 6' fence. My father grabbed a 38 revolver and confronted the guy on the other side of the door. He was warned my father was armed and my mother was calling the police. Then the guy knocked a solid core door off its hinges and came after my father. He was shot in the hip but didn't flee outside, he ducked behind a door. Three more shots were fired through the door but didn't connect. Knowing he was almost out of bullets my father was going to wait until the guy was right in front of him before he shot again. The guy came at him and collapsed on the kitchen floor. My father covered him until the police showed up.

[BonnieB]

I'm still holding out for a 12 gauge shot gun with five rounds loaded.

Trust me, they'll stop.

[myteddybear]

I will go for my BB .177 BB gun before anything else to scare away the intruder.

[ChaneRZ]

CCI Stinger.

[stix213]

If you have to defend yourself, the best gun choice is the closest loaded gun. Caliber arguments go out the window, and are for what you plan to keep loaded and available prior to needing to defend yourself.

[FredoSD]

I recently defended my self with my 22/45 (CCI mini mags). The attacker was a paper target coming at me on a automatic target carrier durring 21 ft drills. Hit that scary SOB 7 out of 8 times.

[fullspeed1]

I recently attempted to work up a traumatic arrest secondary to a single .22lr round to the left lower chest wall. Dude suffered a left sided tension hemo/pnuemo and may have have a ripped aorta from the internal deflection of the round. That was just a single round, I can only imagine what multiple 22lr rounds in the kill zone would do.....Hey, but it's better than nothing, RIGHT???

[fullspeed1]

one 22 to the head and its done.

Agreed!

[desertexplore]

I recently attempted to work up a traumatic arrest secondary to a single .22lr round to the left lower chest wall. Dude suffered a left sided tension hemo/pnuemo and may have have a ripped aorta from the internal deflection of the round. That was just a single round, I can only imagine what multiple 22lr rounds in the kill zone would do.....Hey, but it's better than nothing, RIGHT???

I tell people my similar story to above with a single .22 shot to the chest. If a .22 can do so much damage, I remind myself- yeah, a 9mm will also ruin our day.

[Rhythm of Life]

facts vs armchair commandos..... stats win

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/handgun-stopping-power

[ElDub1950]

It's in interesting chart. I suspect the overall results are really skewed because the majority of people do not fire once, pause to evaluate the results, then fire again when required. Almost everyone fires multiple rounds and stops only when the threat is on the ground.