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  • #16
    plumbum
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 5394

    I would have no issues with a 10/22 stuffed with CCI Velocitors.
    Originally posted by ysr_racer
    Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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    • #17
      1lostinspace
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2006
      • 7848

      Originally posted by BOOGIEMAN
      Like they said, shot placement!
      Shot it right behind the shoulder.
      Shot placement is limited when terminal ballistics are inadequate. It's not the first I have shot and ran off. Other then a spine or head shot it lacks the stopping power for coyote hunting. 22LR is not recommended for SD. If thats all you have so be it.

      Normally I use .223 here is a 5.56 gelatin video.
      Last edited by 1lostinspace; 02-02-2013, 7:47 AM.
      There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

      PUREMMA
      MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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      • #18
        44fred
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 2399

        Here we go again.

        This is why I reload 22lr for home defense. 100% reliability with stopping power you wouldn't believe. .25gr Unique under my own design 400gr WLN bullet. My chronograph can't pick up fps but I know it's really down there.
        "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

        "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

        "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"
        -- Thomas Jefferson

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        • #19
          1lostinspace
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2006
          • 7848

          Originally posted by 44fred
          Here we go again.

          This is why I reload 22lr for home defense. 100% reliability with stopping power you wouldn't believe. .25gr Unique under my own design 400gr WLN bullet. My chronograph can't pick up fps but I know it's really down there.
          400 gr .22 bullet lol
          There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

          PUREMMA
          MIXED MARTIAL ARTS ACADEMY

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          • #20
            VegasND
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2007
            • 8621

            Just curious about the bullet's BC. Fill us in?
            Originally posted by 44fred
            ... my own design 400gr WLN bullet ...
            And I'd use a .22 for defense if I didn't have any other firearm available. But I'd use a .25 acp before resorting to baseball bats or candlesticks.
            People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
            --River Tam

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            • #21
              ElDub1950
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2012
              • 5688

              Originally posted by 44fred
              Here we go again.

              This is why I reload 22lr for home defense. 100% reliability with stopping power you wouldn't believe. .25gr Unique under my own design 400gr WLN bullet. My chronograph can't pick up fps but I know it's really down there.
              Wouldn't a 400gr .22 cal bullet have to be like 6 inches long + the cartridge!!

              Pretty hard to chamber those isn't it??

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              • #22
                FredoSD
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1594

                If given the choice I would not pick a .22 or even a .22 mag for self defence. However like my buddy BUBBA once said to me. "Let's test it out. I'll shoot you in the chest a cpl of times and see what happens". We didn't test it but I'm betting I would have felt some discomfort.
                "Every day I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not on there, I go to work."

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                • #23
                  E Michael
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 2513

                  What are you guys talking about, a 22lr is a perfect round for raccoon home invaders!

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                  • #24
                    44fred
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 2399

                    Originally posted by ElDub1950
                    Wouldn't a 400gr .22 cal bullet have to be like 6 inches long + the cartridge!!

                    Pretty hard to chamber those isn't it??
                    Not really, that's why I use a break open single shot.
                    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

                    "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

                    "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"
                    -- Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #25
                      003
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 3436

                      You may want to try a .22 short case, it would give your more chamber room. Also consider going to a 390 gr bullet.

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                      • #26
                        mcat707
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2346

                        .22lr for Self Defense? Heck ya! Try unloading a full mag of .22's into a bad guys face or neck and see if he gets up.

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                        • #27
                          Mr. Beretta
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 6614

                          Originally posted by mcat707
                          .22lr for Self Defense? Heck ya! Try unloading a full mag of .22's into a bad guys face or neck and see if he gets up.


                          Agreed !

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                          • #28
                            Mr. Gillious
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1549

                            I would totally use .22 for defense if that's all i had or if the conditions were met to use a 22. my 1022 shoots 1 inch groups at 50 yards. i think 10 rounds of 22 at the chest is gonna put someone down. If it doesn't then i'll run to the threat and start whacking him over the head with the ruger

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                            • #29
                              Jason25
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 999

                              Originally posted by 44fred
                              Here we go again.

                              This is why I reload 22lr for home defense. 100% reliability with stopping power you wouldn't believe. .25gr Unique under my own design 400gr WLN bullet. My chronograph can't pick up fps but I know it's really down there.
                              I just imagined what a 400gr .22 would look like. Lol

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                              • #30
                                AR22
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 2155

                                I would not be afraid of using one of CMMG AR22s for self defense. 50 rounds will sure stop anyone. Very light at 5 pounds,easy to aim and accurrate to shoot in a small space. I could put those 50 in em pretty Darn quickly too.

                                Is it the perfect cartridge,no,but I personally would trust the right .22 model to do the job. I know one of the big arguments against .22 as self defense is they can sometimes have misfires and do so more than centerfire.

                                However if I use good quality .22 in mine and it never ever jams or has a dud round. But Murphys Law could be a problem,with my luck it probably would be .22 Rimfire has become alot more reliable than it used to be. Any weopon can fail at anytime. They are mechanical devices and mechanical devices usually fail at the most inopportune time,as we all know..

                                I would trust my CMMG to do the job if it ever actually did come to that. 50 rounds in a firearm, is sure a big advantage, in my theory anyway..
                                Last edited by AR22; 02-02-2013, 12:30 PM.

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