New 22

[ns3v3n]

If you are just looking for a rifle ready out of the box and you're not planning to mod it, you cant beat a Marlin 795 or a Model 60. I got my 795 used for $100 before fees, so far i've gotten 2 more magazines for it and a scope and that's all I'm doing. It would shoot out 3/4" round stickers at 20 yards no problem. Dont forget lots of ammo!

[JackRydden224]

I am 18 and was looking for a pistol until I learned that 18 year olds can't own a handgun. So I have moved on and am now looking at rifles. I have narrowed it down to the Ruger 10/22 or the Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22. If not what else? Thanks

If you are 18 then I assume your funds are going to be extremely limited. I would go with the 10/22 and spend the $250 you saved from not buying the M&P on accessories. For $250 you can get a couple of mags, scope/red dot, bipod and a case.

[D-rek07]

If you are 18 then I assume your funds are going to be extremely limited. I would go with the 10/22 and spend the $250 you saved from not buying the M&P on accessories. For $250 you can get a couple of mags, scope/red dot, bipod and a case.

If I were to get a Ruger, I would get a takedown or tactical and those aren't that much cheaper than the M&P.

[JackRydden224]

If I were to get a Ruger, I would get a takedown or tactical and those aren't that much cheaper than the M&P.

If you are buying new in SoCal then check out Turner's. I believe the tactical is about $259 on sale and the take down for $299. The M&P 15 is about $449.

Go for what you like though. Pictures yourself shooting both guns or better yet find people who have them and will let you play with them. Once you buy one you'll want another one. That's how guns work. You are always going to be one gun short.

[D-rek07]

If you are buying new in SoCal then check out Turner's. I believe the tactical is about $259 on sale and the take down for $299. The M&P 15 is about $449.

Go for what you like though. Pictures yourself shooting both guns or better yet find people who have them and will let you play with them. Once you buy one you'll want another one. That's how guns work. You are always going to be one gun short.

What are the pro's and con's of the tactical and takedown?

[sholling]

I own both and it all depends on what you want to do with your rifle. If you want a tacticool plinker to chase soda cans with the M&P15-22 will do fine. Accuracy is decent but hardly match level and the distance the sights sit above the barrel's bore means that point of impact shifts wildly as distance changes.



An out of the box 10/22 is a great little plinker and rabbit hunter but they are not particularly accurate. What makes them fun is that there hundreds of upgrade components (stocks, barrels, triggers, etc) available and with time and money you can turn that plinker into a serious target/match rifle. It's a great way to learn about what makes a rifle accurate and how to do your own upgrade like bedding the action. The downside is that you can easily put double or triple the cost of the rifle into upgrades.



If you want something super accurate right out of the box then I highly recommend a CZ452 or 453 American or Varmint. They aren't sold as competition rifle but unless you get a lemon (and they stand behind their stuff) these about as close as you're going to come to a match grade rifle for under $500. The "American" version is designed for use with a scope and I'd pair it with a top quality scope like a Weaver V16 4-16x42. If you want to use open sights then you'll need the "Lux" version.

Whatever you buy plan to pick up a couple of spare magazines and attend a 2-day Appleseed course. They'll have you shooting like an expert in 2 days and it's dirt cheap.

[ns3v3n]

If I were to get a Ruger, I would get a takedown or tactical and those aren't that much cheaper than the M&P.

It sounds like you already made your choice, like other said, buy what makes you happy. It seems like you would be more happy with the M&P. Which ever you do, get lots of ammo and blast away and have a good time.

[D-rek07]

I know I have been all over the place, but I think I have decided to go with a Ruger 10/22 Tactical. I think the takedown looks a little to much like my BB gun. Anybody have any more comments about the Tactical?

[Izzy43]

I pointed him to calguns. His original query was about getting a .22 pistol. Being under 21yrs old complicated things for him. Seeing inaccurate info that made the OP believe he couldn't "own" a handgun prompted the CG mention. Where was the rudeness in that?

Absolutely no rudeness in that. You did the OP a favor. I just didn't read his post that way. Apologies all around.

[boxcutter3005]

What are the pro's and con's of the tactical and takedown?

Well don't have any experience with the takedown, but I can give my opinion on the 10/22 tactical I own.

10/22-FS

https://www.ruger.com/products/1022Tactical/models.html

It comes with:

-a threaded barrel, with flash hider (useful if you don't want to get a replacement barrel, but want to do some customization and pop on a comp or something.
-a removable weaver style rail
-no iron sights (depending on what you plan for it, this can either be a pro or a con, if you were planning for a scope its not a big deal, if you were planning on something to shoot right out of the box, this is not the rifle for you)
-16.5" barrel (if you planned on dropping it into a different stock or something like the Archangel marauder or any otherer black rifle style stock kit, this is a nice size. The 2" difference doesn't seem to be much of a difference)

The 10/22-FS tactical is more of a starting platform for customization rather than a out the box rifle in my opinion, I personally started with a scope on it, eventually did a few mods, added a compensator, soon i plan to replace the stock. If you're looking for just a rifle to start shooting with and learning the ropes, the standard models are cheaper and have iron sights to start out with, and can be upgraded to nicer iron sights (I can't as the barrel has no place for a front sight).

[D-rek07]

Well don't have any experience with the takedown, but I can give my opinion on the 10/22 tactical I own.

10/22-FS

https://www.ruger.com/products/1022Tactical/models.html

It comes with:

-a threaded barrel, with flash hider (useful if you don't want to get a replacement barrel, but want to do some customization and pop on a comp or something.
-a removable weaver style rail
-no iron sights (depending on what you plan for it, this can either be a pro or a con, if you were planning for a scope its not a big deal, if you were planning on something to shoot right out of the box, this is not the rifle for you)
-16.5" barrel (if you planned on dropping it into a different stock or something like the Archangel marauder or any otherer black rifle style stock kit, this is a nice size. The 2" difference doesn't seem to be much of a difference)

The 10/22-FS tactical is more of a starting platform for customization rather than a out the box rifle in my opinion, I personally started with a scope on it, eventually did a few mods, added a compensator, soon i plan to replace the stock. If you're looking for just a rifle to start shooting with and learning the ropes, the standard models are cheaper and have iron sights to start out with, and can be upgraded to nicer iron sights (I can't as the barrel has no place for a front sight).

I thought it was illegal to have a threaded barrel in California

[D-rek07]

Since the tactical doesn't have iron sights and I would have to buy a scope to be accurate, how do you guys feel about the Ruger 1256? I am going to have to not really care that it looks like my BB gun.

[JackRydden224]

You can have threaded barrels on a rifle but not on a handgun.

Don't compromise too much on your purchase. The tactical doesn't come with a sight but you can just as easily put a red dot on it then you are good to go. Check out the VISM. It is a micro green dot with laser.

[ck66]

Absolutely no rudeness in that. You did the OP a favor. I just didn't read his post that way. Apologies all around.

No need for apologies. It's just a bit of info disconnect. No biggie.

Welcome to Calguns D-rek07

[D-rek07]

You can have threaded barrels on a rifle but not on a handgun.

Don't compromise too much on your purchase. The tactical doesn't come with a sight but you can just as easily put a red dot on it then you are good to go. Check out the VISM. It is a micro green dot with laser.

If I get a carbine, is it possible to take off the iron sights and put that VISM sight on it? or can you leave the sights on while that VISM sight is on? I may want to do that later on.