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  • D-rek07
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 158

    New 22

    I am 18 and was looking for a pistol until I learned that 18 year olds can't own a handgun. So I have moved on and am now looking at rifles. I have narrowed it down to the Ruger 10/22 or the Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22. If not what else? Thanks
  • #2
    Jeepergeo
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 3506

    If you are looking for something classic, check out CZ-USA's Model 452. That model is being replaced, but there are still a fare number available and are nicely priced, top performing guns. This is a bolt action, removable magazine rifle.

    It is hard to go wrong with a Ruger 10-22. Check out the breakdown model. But my recommendation would be to go with a classic bolt action like the CZ452.

    RimfireCentral.com has a great forum for rimfire.

    Don't forget to budget for a safe or lock box so you can secure whatever gun you buy.
    Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
    Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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    • #3
      D-rek07
      Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 158

      Originally posted by Jeepergeo
      If you are looking for something classic, check out CZ-USA's Model 452. That model is being replaced, but there are still a fare number available and are nicely priced, top performing guns. This is a bolt action, removable magazine rifle.

      It is hard to go wrong with a Ruger 10-22. Check out the breakdown model. But my recommendation would be to go with a classic bolt action like the CZ452.

      RimfireCentral.com has a great forum for rimfire.

      Don't forget to budget for a safe or lock box so you can secure whatever gun you buy.
      I had this on rimfire but some of them told me to come over here because I live in California.

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      • #4
        davek8s
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2014

        I own both. You can't go wrong with either, but I'm pretty sure you'll find a better deal on a 10/22. I've had mine for over 12 years and it's still fun to shoot. Either way you can't go wrong.

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        • #5
          Chaos47
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2010
          • 6615

          Marlin 795. There's a reason that there is a mega thread about it that is sticky-d to the top of this forum...

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          • #6
            defcon
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Aug 2011
            • 3006

            D-rek07

            whats your favorite black rifle?

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            • #7
              DasBoost
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1811

              It depends on what you're looking for in a .22, OP:

              Bolt-action: CZ452; the Trainer is a bare-bones workhorse that is an amazing rifle, while the Lux and International models have various other features or stocks.

              Semi-auto (Non-Tactical): Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 795; the Ruger has a larger aftermarket but the 795 seems to be more ready to go right out of the box. You can see the 795 thread sticky'd at the top and mine and Chaos47's are in there.

              Semi-auto (Tactical): S&W M&P15-22 or Sig522 or GSG-5/Umarex MP5 in 22; The M&P would be great if you plan on moving up to an AR later on as controls, feel, and ergonomics will be roughly the same, plus the accessories will fit both as well. The Sig is essentially a Sig556 in 22 and seems to be fairly well-received. The GSG5/Umarex is a .22 MP5 and you don't have to be an elite () to own one in CA. These seem to have a fairly decent track record as well.

              Personally, I only have experience with the CZ, the 10/22, and the Marlin. I like all 3 and each have their pros/cons and it's a matter of prioritizing what you want in the .22 and what set of pros/cons fit you best. Enjoy!!
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              • #8
                D-rek07
                Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 158

                Originally posted by defcon
                D-rek07

                whats your favorite black rifle?
                I don't have one yet.

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                • #9
                  usmcchet9296
                  CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1834

                  Originally posted by Jeepergeo
                  If you are looking for something classic, check out CZ-USA's Model 452. That model is being replaced, but there are still a fare number available and are nicely priced, top performing guns. This is a bolt action, removable magazine rifle.

                  It is hard to go wrong with a Ruger 10-22. Check out the breakdown model. But my recommendation would be to go with a classic bolt action like the CZ452.

                  RimfireCentral.com has a great forum for rimfire.

                  Don't forget to budget for a safe or lock box so you can secure whatever gun you buy.
                  You want a 800.00 rifle for 3-400.00 get a CZ
                  I have a 452 and for less money than I would spend on a 10/22 I have a gun that fires as good as rifles costing 3 times as much
                  John P. Hermesmeyer
                  U.S.M.C. 1992 to 1996 0311 5th Marines
                  Current location: Camp Living room 1st Recline Div.Now in Texas
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                  • #10
                    usmcchet9296
                    CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1834

                    Originally posted by usmcchet9296
                    You want a 800.00 rifle for 3-400.00 get a CZ
                    I have a 452 and for less money than I would spend on a 10/22 I have a gun that fires as good as rifles costing 3 times as much

                    CZ452V (4) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr

                    Upgraded to a 455PT and give the 452 to my son

                    cz455PTgrn (2) by usmcchet92_96, on Flickr
                    John P. Hermesmeyer
                    U.S.M.C. 1992 to 1996 0311 5th Marines
                    Current location: Camp Living room 1st Recline Div.Now in Texas
                    sigpic
                    Visit http://www.cawheelburners.com
                    In memory of my friend Officer Ryan Bonaminio Riverside PD. Gone but not forgotten.

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                    • #11
                      DisturbedAle
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 1447

                      I would vote for a Ruger 10/22, great gun if you plan on sticking to shooting. But as stated before, the Marlin is supposedly "ready" out of the box.

                      As a new shooter myself, I got a 10/22 a few months ago and I still love it. Put 6 bricks through it, cleaned it once and it performs wonderfully. It has great options to alter the gun if you ever get to that point.
                      "Glorification comes from the journey, not the outcome" - Phil Jackson

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                      • #12
                        darqhelmet
                        Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 458

                        Between the two the Ruger. Or get any tactical rimfire that takes black dog machine magazines. Unless you have a solid line on GSG and/or S&W mags.
                        Son, one day you will make a girl very happy, for a short period of time. Then she will leave you and be with men who are ten times better than you could ever hope to be. These men are called Marines.

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                        • #13
                          Izzy43
                          CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 2670

                          Originally posted by D-rek07
                          I had this on rimfire but some of them told me to come over here because I live in California.
                          That was extremely rude of the person who told you that. I am a member over there and I am surprised that happened to you. Generally there are a lot of great, helpful folks over on rimfirecentral.com.

                          Must have been a California hater that told you that. We at Calguns would never be that rude.

                          As for the rifle, it depends on your primary use. For plinking get a semi-auto, for best accuracy for target shooting, bolt action. Nearly any bolt action rifle will be more accurate out of the box than any semi-auto. Best choice is the one that appeals to you most, after all none of the good ones are cheap and its best to avoid getting the wrong one if you can. Decide on what you will do with the rifle before you choose.

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                          • #14
                            ck66
                            Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 113

                            Originally posted by D-rek07
                            I had this on rimfire but some of them told me to come over here because I live in California.
                            Originally posted by Izzy43
                            That was extremely rude of the person who told you that. I am a member over there and I am surprised that happened to you. Generally there are a lot of great, helpful folks over on rimfirecentral.com.

                            Must have been a California hater that told you that. We at Calguns would never be that rude.
                            I pointed him to calguns. His original query was about getting a .22 pistol. Being under 21yrs old complicated things for him. Seeing inaccurate info that made the OP believe he couldn't "own" a handgun prompted the CG mention. Where was the rudeness in that?

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                            • #15
                              D-rek07
                              Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 158

                              Originally posted by ck66
                              I pointed him to calguns. His original query was about getting a .22 pistol. Being under 21yrs old complicated things for him. Seeing inaccurate info that made the OP believe he couldn't "own" a handgun prompted the CG mention. Where was the rudeness in that?
                              I personally didn't think it was rude. It wasn't like "Get the heck out of here! Go somewhere else!" I just thought you were recommending this forum because it is a California forum.

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