Why doesn't someone make a large rimfire rifle???

[xounlistedxox]

Another awesome way to comply with CA Law while making a very useful rifle/firearm would be to either make, or bring back a larger rimfire cartridge. I have several larger caliber rimfire cartridges in my "rare" cartridges collection.

Make a .45 auto rim upper... etc
Make something like a 5.7 in a rimfire
Make any useful rimfire cartridge upper

Is it just not cost effective, or has no one thought of this yet?

I would gladly pay higher prices for ammo if it allowed me to configure my rifle in any way I want.

[normancay]

I like the way you think!

[trob]

i think about this all the time.

30 06 rimfire

5.56 rimfire

.308 rimfire

etc.

[MAD SVT]

the market would only focus on California though... any of the free states wouldnt buy it because its not reloadable (i think) and its probably going to cost more.

[xounlistedxox]

That's true it would focus on CA, but look at all of the other products that already do... bullet buttons, monster man grips, U-15 stock, the hammerhead, solar tactical grips... the list can go on and on. Also look at new calibers that are awesome like the .50dtc i think it's called and the .416.
I wouldn't underestimate the potential for a large caliber rimfire upper, or better stated a high power rimfire upper. A rimfire .223 for example. You could use all of your same parts that you have now, but at most have to swap a bolt out for a newly designed rimfire bolt and then bam you've got a fully ca compliant rifle that's just as potent as the regular ones with full drop mag capability. I think shortly after development and if it caught on the rimfire cartridges might actually be less expensive than the centerfire because less components are needed to make the ammo.

[SixPointEight]

+1 for this, I've been thinking about this for a while now. I haven't done any research on it, but there must be some reason that centerfire caught on and rimfire didn't for the high power cartridges. Whether it's an efficiency thing, or like you were saying about not being re-loadable, I don't know, but I do want to see this sort of thing happen!

[PatriotnMore]

Because the Police chiefs, police unions, and CA legislature would make and bring new law to cover rim fire as well. You cannot out wit them, you cannot appease them.

If you want change, remove those in power who support such legislation, demand our elected leadership to appoint those who support and defend the Constitution and have demonstrated such support, beyond lip service.

Stop voting party line, vote out those who work to destroy our rights and are fiscally irresponsible. Seek out, and endorse candidates who are of a Constitutional mind and seek to affirm our rights, ask them the tough questions, if they give you double speak and will not provide a direct answer to a direct question, they are just another politician. Let them know why you are voting for them, and that you will hold them accountable for what they say to become elected.

Stay in touch with what your local leadership is up to, police, and State representatives, and keep their feet to the fire.

[choprzrul]

Because the Police chiefs, police unions, and CA legislature would make and bring new law to cover rim fire as well. You cannot out wit them, you cannot appease them.

If you want change, remove those in power who support such legislation, demand our elected leadership to appoint those who support and defend the Constitution and have demonstrated such support, beyond lip service.

Stop voting party line, vote out those who work to destroy our rights and are fiscally irresponsible. Seek out, and endorse candidates who are of a Constitutional mind and seek to affirm our rights, ask them the tough questions, if they give you double speak and will not provide a direct answer to a direct question, they are just another politician. Let them know why you are voting for them, and that you will hold them accountable for what they say to become elected.

Stay in touch with what your local leadership is up to, police, and State representatives, and keep their feet to the fire.

+1 Yep, what he said!

[xounlistedxox]

It's not about out witting anyone. It's about complying within the current laws.
I reload the vast majority of the ammo that I have, but I guarantee you I would buy a rimfire bolt and a ton of rimfire .223!

[PatriotnMore]

It's not about out witting anyone. It's about complying within the current laws.
I reload the vast majority of the ammo that I have, but I guarantee you I would buy a rimfire bolt and a ton of rimfire .223!

Sure it is, that's why you are looking for something to circumvent current law. Take knife laws, switch blades no, so we'll make assisted open. Do you really believe what you're saying?

[xounlistedxox]

We obviously have greatly varying points of view. This reminds me of the glass is half full, or glass is half empty point of view.
You see it as trying to circumvent the law whereas I see it as finding more ways to comply with the law. The way they wrote the law does not include rimfire under it's possible evil features list.
By your view bullet buttons, prince 50 kits, raddlocks, monster man grips, hammerheads, solar tactical add ons, the u-15 and many more are all just ways around the law. I see these all as ways to comply with the law to the letter.

[nrakid88]

hey guys the reason is quite simple. For rimfire cartridges, the brass must be soft/thin so that the firing pin can crush the rim. This means the cases can"t hold up to high pressure, if you made rimfire 223 or 308, it would be extremely ballistically inferior to its thuroughbread brother. Plus, you would need new mags to accomodate the rimmed ammunition, not to mention the fact that rimmed ammo is GAY in a magazine because the rims like to get hung up on eachother, like in my mosin nagant.

[xounlistedxox]

That makes sense to a ceftain degree, but I would think with the increase in technology/materials that someone might be able to develop a rimfire that closely mirrors an actual .223 cartridge, so that you could still use regular mags. Basically all that would be needed is a new bolt that strikes the side instead of the center.

[AngelDecoys]

If a .22 WMR, or .17 hmr upper were available, I'd buy one (or both).

[nrakid88]

Its just too much of a niche market, imho, espescially when you can run featureless with high caps, and use what would be cheaper ammo, cheaper than the specialty rimfire.