Winchetser 1885? Trap?

[Ravenk]

Awesome find. I Love old guns

[TRAP55]

Works better than the shooting off the top of my 4 Runner though

Trap a question for you..I discovered I may be missing a part looking at the diagrams I have found..There is something called a knockoff spring and screw shown in the drawings, well I do not have one..There is a extra hole in the lower tang for a screw to go through, and a slot in the lower tang that looks like it is for a spring..

I found one,will order one if needed....

Dumb question but is it supposed to be there? Or were the springs maybe only used with the double set triggers? I think it is supposed to be there myself..

Toro does your have said spring if you remember the last time you had the stock off?

Any advice appreciated..

Sounds like missing parts for a single set trigger. Wasn't uncommon to strip the delicate fine threads on the screw. Single set has that adjustment screw behind the trigger, double set in front and between the two triggers.
Post a pic for me!

[AR22]

Hope this helps Trap..

[TRAP55]

Okay, The "knock off" is what I call a sear trip, it's there, but missing the spring and spring screw. There's 3 pins in that assembly, and I can't see if they're all there in pic. Trigger pin, knockoff spring and catch pin.
I'm not sure they're needed unless you have a single set trigger. But your trigger works okay?
Dammit, now I have to pull mine apart to look!
You can see the differences in the different trigger set ups here:

http://www.wyomingarmory.com/gun-parts.html

[AR22]

Thanks Trap.

Yes all three pins are there in the block as they should be..It does work as is..But I do have a light strike occasionally..I think the knockoff without the spring could possibly be riding or jumping up and catching the upper sear slowing the hammer occasionally.. It can happen if I manipulate things just right by hand on the hammer and trigger trying to duplicate the catching of the sear as the hammer falls..Just a theory..It does have a new Firing pin..All other pins and bushings throughout are tight and not sloppy at all..

George does not list the Knockoff spring, but I can call, he may have one anyway...Just not a sufficient stock to list them..

[AR22]

Called George..He does have the spring, screw and nut I needed..On its way..He said thanks for bringing it to his attention that number 23 was omitted from the price list..

[TRAP55]

Yeah, mines all in there, glad you found one, that should improve the trigger and light strikes.

[AR22]

George shipped the parts Monday..Will update when I get the spring in a get out to shoot it this week..

[AR22]

Since as I mentioned earlier the Liner was about a inch short..I turned a little .190 False smooth Muzzle in the Lathe to fill it..Looks much better then the 5/16ths bore on the end..

Decided I better have a Tang sight too so I can shoot open sometimes too. I bought a Marbles made for original 1885s..Midway had em on sale for 83.00 with free shipping..Will post a pic of it mounted when it gets here..

[AR22]

Well the trigger spring did not help the strikes. So I said the heck with it and experimented with some shimming under the Main Spring to get a little heavier strike..Took it out this morning and shot 50 rounds of Eley and Hornandy..Nary a misfire. Nice solid strikes...Ran perfect.. Happy now, it was getting me kinda depressed

[TRAP55]

Did it help any with the trigger?

[AR22]

Not sure if it really improved the pull or the way it breaks much..But it atleast does not flop around and returns forward on its own now..

[AR22]

Maybe my last update..Received the Marbles tang sight and it is on..Nice to have the ability to shoot peeps if I want to..

Also have the little copper Caliber tag made and put in the slot that was milled to take out the 22 Long R marking..So no one ever tries to put a 22 Short down a .17 barrel in the future,LOL

I marked the tag 17 HM2,,Came out pretty good..I just hand stamped the new caliber in the copper with hand stamps, and fitted it to slot cut out with a 3/16ths end mill....Thanks

[AR22]

Maybe a little clearer pic..Man my antique camera is terrible.

[toro1]

Great job AR22. You do good work!

Sorry, I missed seeing your updates for a while. I occasionally have light strikes so I may try your shim fix.