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  • hntnnut
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1066

    How much is too much ?

    With all the talk of stocking up /hoarding .22 ammo, I was woundering at what point does one become a hoarder. Is it 500 or 500,000 or somewhere in between? I can't seem to stop buying the stuff, I can't help myself I'd like to know if I should consider myself a hoarder or just well prepared. What say you?

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    danfinger
    Member
    • May 2016
    • 295

    (A) Amount of ammo you realistically use per year.
    (B) Number of years you expect to live.

    A x B = Amount you 'need'.

    Hoarders have more than they need.
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    • #3
      Garv the innocent
      RSG Minion, Senior
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2014
      • 9028

      Originally posted by danfinger
      (A) Amount of ammo you realistically use per year.
      (B) Number of years you expect to live.

      A x B = Amount you 'need'.

      Hoarders have more than they need.

      I like how you do math.

      I have to stock up on a few more higher caliber things before Ammogeddon.
      Originally posted by Kestryll:
      It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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      • #4
        sovereign2b
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 711

        Originally posted by danfinger
        (A) Amount of ammo you realistically use per year.
        (B) Number of years you expect to live.

        A x B = Amount you 'need'.

        Hoarders have more than they need.
        Good answer. From some of the rimfire ammo threads, it would seem that a lot of folks have more than they will ever shoot - or trade in a SHTF scenario, which is one reason that some people hoard.

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        • #5
          John Joseph
          Banned
          • Jan 2014
          • 789

          First talk about ammo that's accurate and reliable.
          If you're sitting on a pile of cr@ppy ammo just because you got it cheap--
          You're hoarding.
          Then consider what you plan on shooting with your .22---hunting? Training? Competition? Protection?
          The difference between what is well supplied and what is hoarding should be obvious.

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          • #6
            JagerDog
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2011
            • 14631

            More than 10x your predicted lifetime use = hoarding.
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            • #7
              gatx105
              Member
              • May 2013
              • 230

              60,000 is 500 rounds/month x 10 years
              30,000 is 500 rounds/month x 5 years or 250 rounds/month x 10 years.

              Figure out how much you really go shoot but those two are pretty good references for deciding how much you need. Sadly most can't go out shooting every single month, and the above doesn't even factor in touching any of your other guns.

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              • #8
                TKM
                Onward through the fog!
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2002
                • 10657

                Originally posted by gatx105
                60,000 is 500 rounds/month x 10 years
                30,000 is 500 rounds/month x 5 years or 250 rounds/month x 10 years.

                Figure out how much you really go shoot but those two are pretty good references for deciding how much you need. Sadly most can't go out shooting every single month, and the above doesn't even factor in touching any of your other guns.
                You can get about 6K in a 50 can. 10 ammo cans full makes a reassuring stack or coffee table.
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                • #9
                  gatx105
                  Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 230

                  The biggest problem with hoarding a bunch of .22 is weight. All of those bricks add up fast, 6k .22 gets close to 40-50 pounds depending on the storage container.

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                  • #10
                    Junkie
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 4848

                    For a while I was putting 500 through my MkIII more weekends than not (ammo was easy to find at the time). Even if I call it 1000/mo, 12k/y, having 50k wouldn't be excessive (and I don't have that much).
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                    • #11
                      WMG
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 1159

                      I have been told that truly crazy people never think they might be crazy.
                      I suspect true hoarders may think along those same lines.
                      However I think it depends.
                      When talking to a guy who you have more ammo than , to him you're a hoarder ... in your mind you just have some ammo and even though it's a lot .... you may need more
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                      • #12
                        RawHP
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 633

                        This thread is funny. Nobody was labeled a hoarder for buying ammo when it was plentiful and cheap. Just like saving money, I know a people that would just steadily buy a brick a month and keep what they don't shoot. I have a friend that would never go into a gun store (when they still had gun stores) without walking out with at least a 50 round box. Simple dollar cost averaging. And over 20 or 30 years, you manage to accumulate a nice pile of ammo. And just like money, I call those people smart, not hoarders. I've got a small pile of $7 a brick ammo, $12 a brick ammo, $15 a brick ammo....., and now sadly $60 a brick ammo. Looking back, I wish I would have bought more of the $7 a brick stuff.

                        Originally posted by TKM
                        You can get about 6K in a 50 can. 10 ammo cans full makes a reassuring stack or coffee table.
                        Or 26 sleeves of MiniMags, but if you know of a configuration that gets more inside, PM me.

                        Originally posted by gatx105
                        The biggest problem with hoarding a bunch of .22 is weight. All of those bricks add up fast, 6k .22 gets close to 40-50 pounds depending on the storage container.
                        Simple rule, more that the floor joists will hold is too much. A steel cabinet distributes the weight more evenly.

                        Originally posted by Junkie
                        For a while I was putting 500 through my MkIII more weekends than not (ammo was easy to find at the time). Even if I call it 1000/mo, 12k/y, having 50k wouldn't be excessive (and I don't have that much).
                        Can't dispute the math, but what about the wife and kids, or if you bring a friend or two along?

                        Bottom line is, I'm never going to let someone like Jerry Brown make me feel like I need to conserve my ammo rather than just have fun shooting. And when I retire and am on a fixed income, I don't want to have to make choices between food and going to the range because ammo has become triple what it is today. PM me in 10 years and we'll go shooting, my treat.

                        Edit: I ran an online historic interest calculator to see what would have happened if I would have put $7 in an interest bearing savings account (short term interest rate) in 1995, and withdrew it in 2015: $11.68. I'm glad I bought the ammo.
                        Last edited by RawHP; 11-01-2016, 6:35 AM.

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                        • #13
                          HD4Jim
                          Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 116

                          When they feature you on the Hoarders TV show, you may have too much. I like to keep a good supply handy. If its on sale, I'm buying it.

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                          • #14
                            Teachu2
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 835

                            I have three sons and 4 grandkids. We can burn a lot of .22 in an afternoon....

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                            • #15
                              gringo m
                              Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 328

                              Kinda like a car too fast or a girl too pretty......

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