LPVO with offset red dot

[ScottsBad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvx1GJNUA4

I'm always impressed about how well he runs that SCAR 17. Wish I could run mine like that. Oh well maybe if I was 20-30 again and had the time.

[HKAllTheThings]

[jeff.i.thomas]

This is my response from now on when someone has something to say about my age... even if it's not relevant to the conversation.


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[jeff.i.thomas]

I guess the idea is growing...

https://youtu.be/0extS4wirgo

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[HKAllTheThings]

I guess the idea is growing...

https://youtu.be/0extS4wirgo

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Good info, thanks.

[SouthCityShooter]

I'm not a competitive shooter.

That said, this strikes me as a 'tacticool' thing with people who have more money than common sense or real firearms experience.

With one of the higher power ACOG's. that are fixed at 4 power for instance, I understand wanting an offset red dot sight for CQC/CQB HD tasking.

The entire purpose of a LPVO's is to have a clear non-tunneling 1x or 1.3-1.5x bottom end for HD CQC yet still provide sufficient magnification for mid range work with a carbine caliber. Specifically so you do not need another sighting system.

Other than to help sell more 'tacticool' gear, I personally see no purpose behind an RDS with an LPVO.

[crufflers]

That said, this strikes me as a 'tacticool' thing with people who have more money than common sense or real firearms experience.

I personally see no purpose behind an RDS with an LPVO.

I've seen some people do it recently that are not without a ton of experience.

The purpose would be if you are set at 6x or 8x or 10x and have to take an immediate close shot.

[jeff.i.thomas]

I'm not a competitive shooter.



That said, this strikes me as a 'tacticool' thing with people who have more money than common sense or real firearms experience.



With one of the higher power ACOG's. that are fixed at 4 power for instance, I understand wanting an offset red dot sight for CQC/CQB HD tasking.



The entire purpose of a LPVO's is to have a clear non-tunneling 1x or 1.3-1.5x bottom end for HD CQC yet still provide sufficient magnification for mid range work with a carbine caliber. Specifically so you do not need another sighting system.



Other than to help sell more 'tacticool' gear, I personally see no purpose behind an RDS with an LPVO.

Here's someone with "common sense" promoting the idea of an LPVO with an offset red dot.

Mike Glover - "spent 18 years in the US Army and as a government contractor for OGA. He served as a SGM in Special Forces in various positions and deployed multiple times to combat theaters. He is an expert in Counter Terrorism, security, and crisis management operations...".

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHJQxEbJ8e3/?igshid=qrj8s9uy8uqj

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[Tracers]

I had a vortex 1-10 but got rid of it. I like the idea of an LVPO but that vortex was not for me. It had some fish eye effect going on at lower powrs that I found annoying and obtrusive. I will probably try LVPOs again with the NF ATACR 1-8. Right now I am running the classic 4x ACOG with the horseshoe reticle (very cool) in green (wow).

I am waiting on EOtech to release a LVPO 1-8 FFP. That is what I'd get or the NF.

Still not impressed with magnifiers even with an eotech that keeps the dot small.

I wish the delta point had the same mount as the rmr so that I could mount it on top of my ACOG.

What is better offset or above?

[HKAllTheThings]

I had a vortex 1-10 but got rid of it. I like the idea of an LVPO but that vortex was not for me. It had some fish eye effect going on at lower powrs that I found annoying and obtrusive. I will probably try LVPOs again with the NF ATACR 1-8. Right now I am running the classic 4x ACOG with the horseshoe reticle (very cool) in green (wow).

I am waiting on EOtech to release a LVPO 1-8 FFP. That is what I'd get or the NF.

Still not impressed with magnifiers even with an eotech that keeps the dot small.

I wish the delta point had the same mount as the rmr so that I could mount it on top of my ACOG.

What is better offset or above?

Check out the EOTech mini on the Matt Burkett offset, if you're looking for a different solution than the RMR.

Sorry... I just saw that it was discontinued.

Also, maybe take a look at the Razor 1-6 as it's clearer at 1x than the 1-10x.

[HooYah]

I keep my LPVO at max magnification and use the offset T-1 for <50m shots. Also, it's faster to scan for targets at distance using the RDS and then once you PID a target, hold the RDS on the target and quickly switch to the LPVO. Your crosshairs will be on the target.

[HKAllTheThings]

I keep my LPVO at max magnification and use the offset T-1 for <50m shots. Also, it's faster to scan for targets at distance using the RDS and then once you PID a target, hold the RDS on the target and quickly switch to the LPVO. Your crosshairs will be on the target.

I have found this to work pretty good as well, although not really that great to do when on bipod or magpod.

[NorCalRefuge]

These are probably rifles that run LPVO's or other magnified optics on the rail normally - but QD'ed to the MRO for the training course and didn't want to lose zero on the non-QD offset red dot.

[ZombieLivesMatter]

These are probably rifles that run LPVO's or other magnified optics on the rail normally - but QD'ed to the MRO for the training course and didn't want to lose zero on the non-QD offset red dot.

That sounds like a good reason but I stopped by Taran Tactical few weeks ago and spoke to them and they said running offset red dot with red dots were for hard leans, makes sense for serious competitive shooting but not for me. LPVO with offset red dot is still probably the best all around application but wasn't for me either, I sold my Eotech Vudu 1-6x and offset RMR and went back to the oldschool flip magnifier, works for this old dog.

[crufflers]

An optic that has a 1x setting to "kind of" get you what a red dot offers is cool. That is more for a shooting range and to save a few bucks IMHO. Adding a RDS and offset mount is for speed to save your life IMHO (and to keep the height over bore low so you don't have to adjust your head position). It seems to work out better than mounting it on top of your prism scope or whatever. I tried it on top of an AR536 fixed 5x and I didn't like it. I like the RDS offset a lot better if it is a RMR or similar sized RDS. But if you don't like it, definitely don't put one on YOUR rifles.