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[a1c]

I agree that Obama did bluntly state that he wants to reintroduce AWB.

Bluntly? Not really. He passed the hot potato to Congress, said what the antis in his camp wanted to hear, even said gang members were not usually shooting AKs but "cheap guns", and promptly moved along. He's got other things on his plate, and this is not one of them. So enough with this nonsense.

As for Romney, I'm sure the electoral votes that did him in didn't come from people watching the news and media, regardless of how he was presented. Our electoral system is broken. if 23 votes are cast for Obama, and 22 votes for Romney, all 55 votes go to Obama. Not exactly fair. I think Maine and a few other states have electoral vote split, which is how it should be

Well then you might as well opt for the popular vote, because what you're suggesting doesn't make much of a difference.

[Mustang]

Bluntly? Not really. He passed the hot potato to Congress, said what the antis in his camp wanted to hear, even said gang members were not usually shooting AKs but "cheap guns", and promptly moved along. He's got other things on his plate, and this is not one of them. So enough with this nonsense.

Look, you can put whatever pro-Obama spin on his statement that you care to, but here's the thing...

First you implied that he hadn't said it...

Well then you need to re-watch it because it didn't exactly play as you are describing it.

and now, having been confronted with the quote, you admit that he said it, but claim that he really didn't mean it.

People can read his statement and judge for themselves the plain meaning of his words. Not really sure how you could possibly know what is on Obama's "plate."

[K5Ken]

You guys should really be worried about the fact that Democrats now have a super majority in California, which I believe will be more damaging to our right to own guns than anything the President will be able to get done.

[Mustang]

You guys should really be worried about the fact that Democrats now have a super majority in California, which I believe will be more damaging to our right to own guns than anything the President will be able to get done.

True enough

[finloq]

True enough

That and the educated electroate that voted in Brown's "Education" tax. Now he has $6,000,000,000 in expected increased tax revenue to borrow against, so that he can spend it on "Education". Or pay back the money that has been held back from the Teacher's Union Pension Fund. What do you think is going to happen first? New textbooks sent to the classrooms or checks out to the union retirees, who funded his campaign and this initiative, by the way.

[Mustang]

I agree that Obama did bluntly state that he wants to reintroduce AWB.

Bluntly? Not really. He passed the hot potato to Congress, said what the antis in his camp wanted to hear, even said gang members were not usually shooting AKs but "cheap guns", and promptly moved along. He's got other things on his plate, and this is not one of them. So enough with this nonsense.

Hmmm...

[mls343]

This is a narco thread, but I'll play. I think the new AWB will have weapons that are listed by name and then backed up by features. I would not be surprised if most, if not all semi-autos are on it. M1 carbines, M1 rifles, SKS, well, you get he picture.

I really hope I'm wrong.

[mls343]

This is a narco thread, but I'll play. I think the new AWB will have weapons that are listed by name and then backed up by features. I would not be surprised if most, if not all semi-autos are on it. M1 carbines, M1 rifles, SKS, well, you get he picture.

I really hope I'm wrong.

[rodngun762]

banning semi autos is unconstitutional... semi automatic rifles are protected under the reasoning of heller & mcdonald. I could see us losing hi capacity magazines, but that's about it.

[Vlad 11]

Nothing good and only bad .... the degree of bad is subject to debate or speculation.

I stand by my prediction...

The apologists were wrong but that's not shocking.

I also predicted that we all would still be alive on 12-21-12

[Dr.Mauser]

If you havent heard, the US told South Korea to destroy the thousands and thousands of Carbine and Garands they were about to import here. Thank you Obama...

[NOTABIKER]

"the very survival of this county" wow......really? are you serious?

Way too funny....

i agree with him, i guess you do not understand the mindset of a lefty. i do.
have you read the communist manifesto ?. i bet obama did. i think he liked it.

[Mustang]

banning semi autos is unconstitutional... semi automatic rifles are protected under the reasoning of heller & mcdonald. I could see us losing hi capacity magazines, but that's about it.

Banning semi-autos is unconstitutional until Scalia, Kennedy (both of whom are 76), Thomas, Alito, or Roberts leave the Court.

So, you think the Democrats will be satisfied with banning high capacity magazines? Really?

[Paulie Lugnuts]

Ofcourse we need more gun control, look at how well it worked in Connecticut.
I have no idea what will happen, but I'm sure something will. The Libs will not lose this chance to restrict our rights. Its part of their ingrained belief that crimes are never the perp's fault, they're poor victims of society, "Gun Culture", video games, etc.

[rodngun762]

Banning semi-autos is unconstitutional until Scalia, Kennedy (both of whom are 76), Thomas, Alito, or Roberts leave the Court.

That's extremely pessimistic. The Supreme Court doesn't work like that. First of all, Roberts is still young and is going to be with us for at least 20 more, probably 30 more years. As the Chief Justice he has the power to set the agenda of the court. Secondly, and related to this, the Supreme Court will observe precedence in our 2nd amendment cases. Now, we know they have gone back to overturn precedent that significant impacted the rights of Americans... ie Plessy V. Ferguson. But they are a busy group of people and are not eager to rehash old issues (gun rights relatively minor) that have already been decided. Roberts is not even willing to go back and overturn Roe v. Wade, what makes you think he will allow the court to hear cases to overturn the 2nd amendment??

Scalia and Kennedy will continue to serve the next four years. An 80 year old justice isn't such a big deal.

So, you think the Democrats will be satisfied with banning high capacity magazines? Really?

Yes... it's practically the only defining measure of an "assault weapon". Everything else is no different than a semi-automatic rifle. So they may try and ban certain manufacturers, etc...but in the end if we take judicial action against the ban we have a good case I think .